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14 Jan 2010, 10:35 am

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Remember the scripture where St. Paul talks about the Church as being made up of different parts, like a body? (1 Corinthians chapter 12).

Many a days I feel as if I'm the appendix...or a wisdom tooth...a vestigial organ.

Sometimes I think I'm the spastic colon. :lol:

Or as we like to say in my favorite Catholic online community, about the flamers and the nut jobs: "in the body of Christ, somebody's got to be the as*hole."

Haha! Thats pretty clever. And that light, we should take pride in our job!

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14 Jan 2010, 12:34 pm

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First I will say I am atheist, dislike Christianity (and most major religions) mostly due to their human part and believe we don't have free will which talk of God offends.

That said there is many ways to do good. Spreading the religion is a really shallow way. Sorry if this offends but I don't think making more people Christian is the answer to anything, rather helping any person become a better person is a noble goal, whether they be Christian or not. This is what I mean by human element. The focus is too much on making more of a religion rather than making more people better people.

Anyway there is many ways to do good. I take it you have an interest in the bible? I am sure you could quote lots of things and help people with religion in a behind the scenes way. Perhaps you could offer to help at the church. At the least this will give you some social interaction. Churches often have social groups during the week. I am sure even just helping them prepare for something and leaving before the people arrive would be appreciated.

I don't think prayer would be helpful. I don't think just saying things, even with conviction really helps me at all ("I will study and do all the work" I say, I really want to but never do

). I feel I respond better to doing action and nothing feels as good as being told "thanks, you really helped" or "good work", even if it was the most trivial thing.

I guess some people don't understand the words, "for only Christian."

I'll lend my expertise in translating: "If you're not a Christian, your opinion isn't wanted." I suppose it wouldn't be so bad if one were to at least make an attempt to post something related to the OP's query, but alas, you did not.

people need to remain open minded of others opinions. They arent necessarily fact nor fiction. I feel having a constructive comment from what you deem as the unwanted athiests, as helpful, as long as they dont ridicule you about believing in a god. I also happen to agree with SirLogiC with regards that just simply praying doesnt do a thing, people should ACTIVELY help people instead of just praying. Since your christian I will make a suggestion, go pray and also just physically help people from time to time.

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14 Jan 2010, 12:57 pm

DemonAbyss10 wrote:

I also happen to agree with SirLogiC with regards that just simply praying doesnt do a thing, people should ACTIVELY help people instead of just praying. Since your christian I will make a suggestion, go pray and also just physically help people from time to time.

That advice of yours is also in James 14-18

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14 Jan 2010, 1:35 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

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That advice of yours is also in James 14-18

I realized that, but the thing is, I do see alot of christians, know a few personally who only pray instead of anything else, then they go and act like hypocrites every other time.

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14 Jan 2010, 1:44 pm

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That advice of yours is also in James 14-18

I realized that, but the thing is, I do see alot of christians, know a few personally who only pray instead of anything else, then they go and act like hypocrites every other time.

That is unfortunate. I would like to point out that it is not always financially feasible to help others in need, say, if you are in need yourself. I'm not exactly broke myself, and sometimes I do help when there is a need I can provide. But more often than not it is giving items rather than money. In areas with a high cost of living, such as most modernized high tech over-regulated countries like the USA, having a total income below the cost of living decreases the ability to give. But that is also just considering giving out of excess.

Something else to consider is that there are many people who prey on those who are generous. Don't get me wrong, it is horrid for people to be going around like a jerk and playing on false plight in order to gain free money and stuff. But it is even worse if they just outright stab you and take your wallet, and then say "yea, three dollars!".

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14 Jan 2010, 2:42 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

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That advice of yours is also in James 14-18

I realized that, but the thing is, I do see alot of christians, know a few personally who only pray instead of anything else, then they go and act like hypocrites every other time.

I realize that. Financial isnt the oly way, you could for example help direct the unemployed to a service that will help them, stuff like that.

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14 Jan 2010, 2:59 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Of course, that's why Jesus made a big deal of the widow who tossed in a mite vs. the rich man putting in a small sack of gold. Her offering (proportionately) was more than the rich man gave as it was sacrificial.

Never underestimate small givers. A little from each becomes a lot real fast. Too often we focus on giving large sums never realizing that small giving changes the world as well.

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14 Jan 2010, 4:00 pm

DemonAbyss10 wrote:

I realize that. Financial isnt the oly way, you could for example help direct the unemployed to a service that will help them, stuff like that.

I'll need to be directed to such a service as well..

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Yep, such as Paul commended the believers in Thessalonia for doing. In proportion to income, the widow gave 100% of her wealth.

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14 Jan 2010, 7:02 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

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I realize that. Financial isnt the oly way, you could for example help direct the unemployed to a service that will help them, stuff like that.

I'll need to be directed to such a service as well..

Not sure of any outside my area to be honest :/

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16 Jan 2010, 5:08 pm

Yes. I feel it makes me a stronger Christian. God gave me autism for a reason. I don't go to church or other "worship" sevices. Why should I go into a manmade structure to worship when I can be surrounded by God's creation. Most Christians I have come across are the biggest hypocrytes and are really mean and rude and harass me about my AS issues. Jesus hung out with the outcasts. I feel closer to God when I am alone anyway. If my body is a temple, why should I have to go to one? I believe in God and Jesus but not most people's idea of religion. A lot of Christians I have come across have this attitude that their demonition is the only one and you are doomed to Hell if you do not agree. Personaly, I'm a mixture of Rastafari and East Othodox Catholism. Yes, I think my AS makes my belief in God stronger. f**k what other people think.

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19 Jan 2010, 1:33 pm

I know this is a question for "Christian aspies only", but I think I can answer, because I only recently became an atheist. All I'll say is that I do think my Asperger's Syndrome contributed to my loss of Faith. I kind of wish I hadn't lost my Faith, but now I think there is no God, although I am open to any evidence that may prove a supernatural entity. I think that if I didn't have Asperger's Syndrome, my Faith would not have left me. I was much happier when I believed there was someone watching over me...

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19 Jan 2010, 1:50 pm

"Does being autistic affect your relationship with Jesus/God?"

I am Catholic and in high school had a religious identity problem. Some of my now-former classmates were Jewish and I said I was Jewish to "fit in." In retrospect, that was dumb of me to do such a thing. Being AS is irrelevant to me being Catholic. My parish is xenophobic to the idea of a parishoner displaying eccentricities during Mass. My parish consists mainly of families and seniors. At first, I had a habit of tapping my fingers on the pew in front of me, as a way of playing air piano. Now, I have a habit of sniffing my fingers before Communion is distributed. However, there is a family with a non-verbal member who stims during the offertory. I am intrigued by this particular family.

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22 Jan 2010, 11:47 am

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My question is "Does being autistic affect your relationship with Jesus/God?". I'm a Christian in that I believe God loved this world so much that He sent Jesus Christ down to Earth as the perfect sacrifice for all of man's sins. I've seen people who were not Christians do a complete 180 degree turn and become Christians and do God's work. I know Jesus Christ is real, and that He can change people.

However, as for myself, I have fallen away from God. Like a lot of aspies, I'm an introvert, I don't socialize with people much, and I usually keep to myself. I usually just stay home and fill my time with learning trivial things and playing video games. I often get depressed because I know I am empty inside. I have stopped reading my Bible as well. I keep thinking to myself "How can I do God's work (telling others about Jesus) and be a Christian when I'm always alone? I need people, I need social interaction, I can't love God until I have my needs taken care of." I often feel like that if I read the Bible and learned everything about Jesus and what God wants of me, it wouldn't matter, because I will still be alone.

It is also hard for me to emotionally understand God like a Father, as I notice NT Christians view Him emotionally. They see God as their Heavenly father (which He is), and that they live Christian lives to honor Him and bring glory to Him. Whenever I pray to God, I feel like I have no emotion, that I'm talking to hear my own voice. I know God listens to us when we pray to Him, but I feel like I don't understand all this emotional stuff because I am autistic.

What I'd like to know is, do you guys feel the same way? That you have trouble relating to God on an emotional level and that you always feel alone and needing to be with people than with God?

Awh, I totaly relate to this. I wanted to be a missionary, but slowly as I grew up I realised that I couldn't relate to "regular" people and I have no concept of what issues affect them and I am in no way capable of "helping" people in that sort of way. Although I do like a good old philosophical debate. But I cannot translate the religious into a practical level for people to benefit from. Does that make any sense?

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22 Jan 2010, 11:56 am

zer0netgain wrote:

reginaterrae wrote:

Remember the scripture where St. Paul talks about the Church as being made up of different parts, like a body? (1 Corinthians chapter 12).

Many a days I feel as if I'm the appendix...or a wisdom tooth...a vestigial organ.

Sometimes I think I'm the spastic colon. :lol:

That's a shame. We all have our very own unique positive traits. It just takes a while to realise what they are. Don't give up. My sister and I are not very good at empathy, but we are also not very talkative. However, because we are quite we are viewed as good listeners. We find that the most random of people feel at ease to tell us their problems and we are viewed as supportive. People like someone who listens. This seems to be our role. Plus, because I am quirky (I have no formal diagnosis, so I am hesitant to say I am autistic) but my uniqueness has enabled me to be more understanding of other unique people and this I think helps them to feel a part of the congregation I am in.

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25 Jan 2010, 3:00 am

Well, in a word, yes it does affect the relationship with God. Mde atheist / agnostic [alternating] a long time because I did not see whatever the church people saw. That changed, I tried the yellow brick road of steping in the foosteps of NT Christians, but the stride was the wrong length and the footprnts the wrong size.

These days I find myself sitting and working and exchanging a thought here, a word there, a datum thrown out or received, with God at the other desk being with me whle he works. This is how I relate with the people closest to me, the ones who get me and I them.

The average church wants people in one mold and one flock. God deals with individuallys one at a time.

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31 Jan 2010, 7:26 pm

AutisticMalcontent wrote:

I think that if you follow the bible's advise you will find God and feel closer to him. Consider
Psalm 145:18, 19 “God is near to all those calling upon him, to all those who call upon him in trueness. The desire of those fearing him he will perform, and their cry for help he will hear.”
You can also read Psalm 83:18, Psalm 115:15 & Isaiah 40:15 to learn more about God.

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