YEC Evidentialist Article: Evidence for a young world

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I would rather assume that the law of non-contradiction is at least true to some extent. But if consistency of notions is to be the goal, the nihilism and solipsism work fine. Everything can be made consistent with these ideologies very readily. Some political leaders have actively practiced solipsism for their entire reign, and it sometimes works quite well unless you are forced to sign the magna carta or are assassinated. Perhaps everything is just a dream. My dream. You all are just figments of my imagination. Any inconsistencies in the universe are accounted for as just being part of the simulation. However, if things are contradicted by testable and verifiable evidence, then they are just able to be brushed away by rejection of the falsification criterion? As John Crichton would say, "what the frell?"

No, there is nothing I personally have against exploring the alternative views and how they are arrived at. Perhaps there is some bias, in me and in people who have strong views in general, be they Christians, militant Atheists, or worshipers of Dagon or Baal or Ra or Zeus or Hitler. Most people tend to accept what they already believe, as Caesar said, "Fere libenter homines id quod volunt credunt". It is good to try to remain objective and all that spiel, but most people aren't, whether incidentally by how they are raised and taught or even actively. I have considered the - ultimately - atheistic explanation of the universe, and it seems less tenable to me then the design alternative. As per who the designer is, I consider the God of the Bible to be based on history and fulfillment of prophecies.



The length of years are based on the solar cycle. Even though the Jewish calendar is lunar, it still has to line up with the seasons and so they have to add an extra month every so often to correct this, in order to keep in track with the seasons. Seasons are dependent on the tilt of the Earth and the orbit around the sun, so even a lunar calendar is ultimately related to the solar calendar via the seasons. It would be a year with an average of 365.24 days in it. Currently I am about 8,900 days old. A person who would be recorded as living to about 200 years old in Genesis 5 or 10 would be about 73,048 days old. When I am 27 years and about 4 months old, then I will turn 10,000 days old myself. Is it impossible to live longer than we currently do now? Is it impossible to live about 950 years? Why if so?



It depends on the veracity of assumptions as to whether the ratios are due to decay. If they are due to decay, then that would contradict an age of 6,012 years. But if the rate of another process which is simpler, actually "basic physics" as ruveyn has been harping, were to contradict the less verifiable assumptions regarding prerequistite conditions for the A_f = A_o*e^(-kt) equations to be valid, then would it not go to say that some of the assumptions of the less verifiable calculation may be wrong? Not necessarily the rate of decay, but perhaps leaching by water and other factors which would be a problem with the assumptions regarding mineral samples.

I can only congratulate you on the intricacy of your delusions.

Sorry, you don't exist, therefore you can't congratulate anyone because that is an action that only those who exist can perform.

Please stop muttering to yourself in public.

After you, good sir. I insist.

Umm..... the law of non-contradiction wasn't rejected.

You see, the law of non-contradiction only holds for deductions, which are true by necessity. Two inductions can contradict each other, and both inductions can be upheld as being valid. Now, the idea is that with more information, there will not be a contradiction, but there is no reason to completely throw out information just because at one point in time, there is an apparent contradiction.

You mean the contradictions? It depends on the number of contradictions and how deeply they impact our knowledge base. There isn't a notion that the universe contradicts, only that our knowledge can contradict, and honestly human knowledge is continually subject to revision. Holding ideas to be falsified by just one revisable belief just leaves us with too much instability in inquiry though.

That being said, I think most people would consider young earth creationism to be even more falsified by evidence.

But I don't deny your existence. If you deny I exist and still reply to my posts you only confirm you are delusional which now seems likely.

I'm probably too tired to notice anything in the first two paragraphs which would be a problem for the young-earth paradigm, but the third paragraph-sentence is basically ad populum if it is held as evidence. As a statement of statistical polling for a *giving time, fine, certainly that may be true that most people consider the YEC position to be falsified by the evidence. However, also statistically true, the vast majority of Muslims believe, essentially, that the Qur'an has trumped the New Testament and Tanakh.

Edit: sorry, I meant the forth one not the third.
Edit: *given time, not giving time.

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Nah, sometimes when I'm bored I talk with other robots anyway.

Robots which do or do not exist?

It depends on what your definition of "is" is.

Play nice, you guys. There's no need for this sniping. We get it, the two of you disagree on a lot of things and aren't particularly fond of each other. But if you can't see a post from the other person without going on one of these asinine little bickering streaks, just go download the Greasemonkey script Lau made so you don't have to see each others' posts.

I would rather not steer this interchange into sexual matters.

Actually, I prefer not to ignore people intentionally, even if they are intentionally rude, because it sucks to happen if you are the one being ignored. I don't know if you are familiar with facebook, but it can really hurt if a friend you know in real life blocks you. Even so with just internet friends. I'd prefer to continue allowing the insults and banter. Besides, it probably makes sand feel like he's accomplished something.

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Who said anything about White House interns and presidents from Arkansas?