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26 Aug 2011, 11:10 am

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Utter and complete balderdash!

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Can balderdash be perfected?



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26 Aug 2011, 12:08 pm

Philologos wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
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Utter and complete balderdash!

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Can balderdash be perfected?


Could you restate that question?

By that question do you mean "can balderdash be guaranteed to be PURE balderdash- uncontaminated by any hint of truth (or a speck of cereal)? You want your balderdash pure and unadulterated.

Or by that do you mean "can something that seems flaky be refashioned into something that makes sense?"?



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26 Aug 2011, 12:50 pm

Im rather opened minded to unorthodox ideas, but even Shirely McLaine would consider this to be balderdash.

Its not tethered to any kind of reality whatsoever.

Okay: so babies are being born now with a certain set of characteristics.

Many happened to be autistic/aspie traits.

And you give an interminably long laundry list of traits.

First of all: when exactly is "now"?
What date did this current model of babies start coming off the assembly line?

Is this every baby born "now". Or just a certain percentage?
Are you talking about an upspike in the numbers of a type of kid that has always existed? Or are you talking about a new kind of child that never existed before- but is still a minority of children born today?
In other words: what the H are you talking about?


Many of us have many of the traits- myself included- but thats because some (including me) are aspies. And there are many traits we dont have. The list is so damned long anyone can find something that fits them.

Also- I assume that detroit came out with this new kind of baby sometime after 2000- many of us who have these chrystal traits were born long before the start of this centurey- so we cant be chrystal babies. So you're defining the category by traits that people outside the category have in abundance. So what use is it as a category?

On top of that many of these traits are for things like "seeing auras".
Thats like saying " the unicorns must have been killed off by the space aliens"- linking one unknown with another unknown.

Im not totally closed to the ideas of Kirilian photography and auras, but its still a dodgy unproven subject to say the least.

In short:you might try speaking in terms that people outside of Marin County California can understand!



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26 Aug 2011, 4:12 pm

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- they have an understanding of what simple energy and materia is, are capable of manipulating energy and therefore perform "magic"

They're using materia! Now that explain everything! :wink:

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26 Aug 2011, 6:08 pm

OP:

Your list sounds like a catch-all way to describe just about anyone that someone wants to label a "crystal child" out of wishful thinking (assuming crystal children exist at all). They sound more like those kids sitting around the oracle's office in The Matrix than an autistic kid.Image


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26 Aug 2011, 6:13 pm

Make a list of qualifications broad enough, and anyone may qualify.



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26 Aug 2011, 7:27 pm

I see the Forer Effect is at strongly being attempted here with OP's post. As mentioned before by Asmodeus, it's basically a gigantic Barnum Statement.

But I'm definitely not a Crystal Child, I'm quite the misanthrope. Saving humanity my a**, let it burn! :twisted:


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26 Aug 2011, 11:50 pm

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Auras...?


LOL yes :-)6
Some people believe that people sort of radiate energy and some people can see or sense this energy. It could also be called halo.


Well we do radiate energy. Our bodies are natural dipoles.

Whether or not people can see them? I don't have enough evidence, but machines can pick up your bodies em field. Whether in part or on the whole, heart monitors for example measure the pulse directly from your happy little pump.



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09 Jun 2012, 8:32 am

Ketutar....

i do fill much of the description of the crystal child. and i understand the question you are asking....
indeed data is valid.

and you are looking at the bigger picture....

not everyone in the world functions with the DSM, religion like most other opinions, is subjective and a way to explain and figure out the world we live in. Science works for the same aim.

New Age BS? Mayhaps...or maybe not. The label Asperger is as much a label as Indigo child. One is considered a disability and one is seen as 'special' but could be seen as Aspie supremacy.

MIght the truth lie somewhere inbetween? Each label is useful, for separate reasons.

MARKING difference ......can aid to ACCEPTANCE of difference. This is something worth fighting for, and worth our human survival as a whole. A society with only warriors, and has no farmers, starves. a society with only farmers and no warriors has no protection.

All in all, my point is DIVERSITY is BENEFICIAL towards SURVIVAL. Maybe getting caught up in defensive detailing is also not beneficial. Cant both these WAYS of classifying co-exist?

im not a new ager. sometimes who i am is a disability. sometimes its an ability. i see NT's in a similar way. Sometimes they seem severely disabled. but maybe thats why we're there.....to BALANCE.

Is UNITY & co-creation beneficial. Hell yes, i can see it in filmmaking and in every day life. We can be specialized AND function better as a whole. Does living and sharing those ways make me seem like a new age crystal? YES. so what? Americans call me Asperger. In my country....just called weird or sectioned off as 'artist' or 'nerd'. Labels...and descriptions......can help explain our differences or define us in a negative way. What seems to be lacking in ONE WAY thinking is ACCEPTANCE of difference.

Not everyone in the world believes in classifying people as medical disorders & disabilities, in fact it is seen as BS where i live. :(

nor do we all walk around thinking some kids can perform magic.

tho what is USEFUL in both the DSM and Indigo movement, that the oversensory issues, etc and ways to manage it are being offered, no matter which extreme they come from?

where i live 'society' wins....what valued is conformity and sameness, and lack of consideration for anything outside of that. a narcissistic culture. Everything is BS in a reductionist world. And so we lack skills, our survival wanes, growth as a whole is halted and its a dog eat dog world.



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09 Jun 2012, 11:17 am

The idea as strange as it sounds is quite interesting.



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09 Jun 2012, 11:20 am

Ketutar wrote:
What are Crystal Children?


A fictional and extremely lame, facepalm worthy concept


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09 Jun 2012, 11:25 am

Vigilans wrote:
Ketutar wrote:
What are Crystal Children?


A fictional and extremely lame, facepalm worthy concept


:lol:



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09 Jun 2012, 11:51 am

You're a wizard Harry.



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09 Jun 2012, 1:31 pm

Crystal / Indigo is I think even more substantive and easy to sum up.

Crystal/Indigo children or teens/adults are people who remember bits of pre-life planning, remember other things as well that are pre-conception, or additionally have abilities that they didn't completely forget.

Essentially it just means the memory scrub wasn't complete and that this was done for a reason.

If you're aspie and you have all that - great, you may well be Crystal/Indigo, if you're NT and have that, you may well be Crystal/Indigo, if you're AS or NT and don't have any of that - you're probably not Crystal/Indigo.


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09 Jun 2012, 2:07 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Crystal / Indigo is I think even more substantive and easy to sum up.

Crystal/Indigo children or teens/adults are people who remember bits of pre-life planning, remember other things as well that are pre-conception, or additionally have abilities that they didn't completely forget.

Essentially it just means the memory scrub wasn't complete and that this was done for a reason.

If you're aspie and you have all that - great, you may well be Crystal/Indigo, if you're NT and have that, you may well be Crystal/Indigo, if you're AS or NT and don't have any of that - you're probably not Crystal/Indigo.


I've always found that concept fascinating. The logical part of my mind just screams BS at me, but when I was young I knew a lot of things that would have been next door to impossible for me to know by any other explanation.


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09 Jun 2012, 2:14 pm

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I've always found that concept fascinating. The logical part of my mind just screams BS at me, but when I was young I knew a lot of things that would have been next door to impossible for me to know by any other explanation.

I think a lot of these concepts just enjoy a lot of guilt by association (ie. hippies, the Jesus is in a spaceship people, etc. etc.).


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