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11 Jul 2010, 9:06 am

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

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2. There is no guarantee that the not yet born are going to do a thing for us. We have not done much for them, after all.

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No, there is no guarantee anywhere in the process.

But any undeluded person fully accepts that without cryogenics you are guaranteed to remain dead.

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11 Jul 2010, 11:04 am

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2. There is no guarantee that the not yet born are going to do a thing for us. We have not done much for them, after all.

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No, there is no guarantee that they will. However, whether they do or not depends really. For the sake of argument, what if they decide to revive a cryonically frozen person for historical reasons? For example, Benjamin Franklin once stated in a letter that he wished it were possible for him to be preserved and revived in a future century, just so that he could see how America and the world would of changed in the intervening period:

http://e-drexler.com/d/06/00/EOC/EOC_Chapter_9.html.

If it were possible to bring back Benjamin Franklin today, who would not want to meet him? I would. :wink:

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11 Jul 2010, 11:11 am

Sand wrote:

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

2. There is no guarantee that the not yet born are going to do a thing for us. We have not done much for them, after all.

ruveyn

No, there is no guarantee anywhere in the process.

But any undeluded person fully accepts that without cryogenics you are guaranteed to remain dead.

Yes, and that's why people would consider doing it. They would still probably go for the option of cryogenics due to whatever possibility there is of being revived, and however remote that possibility is, because they would also have nothing to lose with regards to not being revived.

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11 Jul 2010, 11:44 am

Sand wrote:

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

2. There is no guarantee that the not yet born are going to do a thing for us. We have not done much for them, after all.

ruveyn

No, there is no guarantee anywhere in the process.

But any undeluded person fully accepts that without cryogenics you are guaranteed to remain dead.

Zombies?

I guess the problem with cryogenics is really to ask why you would bother with it. I mean, given the ludicrous amount of resources you'd have to put in to such a thing for any return at all would be mind-boggling. I reckon it would be a better use of your time and money to do something decent while you have the chance instead of pissing money on having a 'second chance'.

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11 Jul 2010, 11:50 am

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The potential value I see in it is really just historical. Any person frozen, even if not revived, will at least be a source that historians of the future can use to study the past.

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11 Jul 2010, 11:58 am

A living time capsule? Sci-fi. Well would it not make more sense to store videos and music and stuff on a memory stick and just leave that somewhere?

Of course, we learn a lot about early man from those frozen remains in mountain-tops; I guess historical education is a decent reason to freeze. Perhaps a touch sinister though.

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