Exclavius wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
zer0netgain wrote:
Sand wrote:
zer0netgain wrote:
All that can be honestly said is that ALL disease and ALL infirmity is the result of the fallen nature of man.
A man does not get a disease or disorder because of his sins, the sins of his parents, or because some demon chose to afflict him. These things might be so in SOME cases, but just as the lame man was not lame for anything he did but so that God's work could be glorified (as Jesus healed him), people might have bad things happen to them because we live in imperfect corruptible bodies.
Understanding a bit of biology and the nature of organic mechanisms might help here. Theology is total nonsense when perceiving bodily actions, thunderstorms and volcanoes.
I was addressing the issue from a purely theological position based on what the Bible teaches on the whole about the topic.
That is apparent. However, it's sand's goal to live out the rest of his life bashing and ridiculing everything which he considers "total nonsense" (i.e., the Bible).
That's because total nonsense, unless it is intended as humour, should be bashed for what it is.
Geocentric and flatearth supporters had the same gall towards criticism just a few centuries ago.
Sand doesn't "CONSIDER the bible to be total nonsense" any more than I (and presumably you) would CONSIDER geocentricism or the flat earth society. It is a simple statement of fact.
That you may choose to reject reality in favour of a book written by ignorants 1800+ years ago is your choice, but it doesn't make it real anymore than me wishing and believing my house were made of gold makes me rich.
(sidenote: Humorously I'm currently watching the episode of the Big Ban Theory where Leonard and Penny have the fight about believing in psychics.)
The amount of association you do is where the ridicule lay, not in the actual accounts themselves. You do realize that geocentrism was a position invented the Greeks, not by the Jewish people, or rather you probably don't or just don't care. Also, the Bible wasn't written at one point in time 1800+ years ago, it is a collection of books written throughout a period of at least 3500 years ago through 1900 years ago, by people contemporaneous to the events recorded.
BTW, do you happen to have an original manuscript of
De Natura Deorum? It was written by Cicero and sent to Brutus. I'd be willing to pay an hundred trillion dollars for it if you can find it and independently verify its authenticity and originality.
04 Aug 2010, 8:24 am
