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19 Aug 2010, 9:21 am

I don't see why everyone's ragging on you.
I completely agree.

With few exceptions, the black people I've met are LOUD, to the point of shouting, obnoxious, and insensitive to others.

I am also immensely turned-off by "gangsta" culture. If they resent living in poverty and being represented as hood rats, why do they spend millions supporting rappers who talk about hustling, gang bangs, and killing?

What you're talking about has NOTHING to do with race. It's recognition of things you dislike that are OFTEN characterized by the culture of one race, but by no means exclusively.

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19 Aug 2010, 9:30 am

Bethie wrote:
With few exceptions, the black people I've met are LOUD, to the point of shouting, obnoxious, and insensitive to others.

I am also immensely turned-off by "gangsta" culture. If they resent living in poverty and being represented as hood rats, why do they spend millions supporting rappers who talk about hustling, gang bangs, and killing?

8O


I agree with the first part. Out of the few black friends I had, one moved away and the other died back in May. One of them is going back to school in the fall and I can't wait to see her again. When I pass by a group of black students, I feel like they are glaring daggers at me even though I haven't said or done anything. Maybe they don't like how I dress with so many bright colors. Could someone explain this to me? :(

I don't know. I guess it could stem back to the harlem renaissance and the blues. They sang about the hardships they endured. However, I think this has been majorly distorted in modern rap music, like they're bragging about living in impoverished places as if they were pimp mansions.



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19 Aug 2010, 2:32 pm

Bethie wrote:
With few exceptions, the black people I've met are LOUD, to the point of shouting, obnoxious, and insensitive to others.
And religious did I say religious. This is what I think about NTs, especially Brits when they go on holiday. They r bagginit bear time.

The case for Afro-Americans man, things happen for a reason, and not by accident. African-American and Afro-Caribbeans had to survive in an environment that is different. As a result developer different set of traits to survive well.

There are fine points about slavery that most people are unaware of and how it effects human psychology. The effects are similar to that of extreme socialism or communism. I know Americans been drummed in the dangers of socialism so you should have a better understanding. I hope this highlight why there are so few black aspies.

Lets say me a black aspie and your stereotypical black man have to survive as a slave on a paddy field. All aspie strengths as an aspie limited
* No opportunity to go to university
* No chance of starting a business
* No ownership of property of any sort.
* No reason to work hard as the slave master get all the benefits.
* No chance of getting a professional job.
* Chance of attracting a female by means of being eligible
* No chance of better status beyond status based on social skills and charm.

The stereotypical black man fairs much better
* The survives on his pure social skills alone
* He doesn't need to be a provider for his family as The State( The slavemaster provides)
Marriage is no longer needed.
* He steals from slave-master which is far more beneficial then working hard for him.
* Being a slave is like being in jail, hustling is the way to go.

By process of natural selection woman would choose man who are fly or bad boy against those who was intelligent and have a natural ability to make money own property and acquire social standing by good hard work.

I wouldn't be surprise if the slave master would choose a physically superior stud man for breading with many woman. The slave master wouldn't want to bread as much man as woman as men cannot reproduce more slaves, in line with that of farm animals. They prefer to bread physically stronger woman to do the roles of men. No surprise when you look at statistics the ratio of woman to men is much stronger then of white folk.

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19 Aug 2010, 3:30 pm

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However, they do make a nuisance at car boot sales.


lmao



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19 Aug 2010, 5:21 pm

Don't forget that America is not actually the centre of the universe and there are all manner of black cultures all over the world.

All manner of black cultures in America.

No one seems to remember the black church going communities. No one remembers the people who work hard at school, get degrees, get good jobs, become president. etc

It seems that people want to talk about black culture but they don't know anything about it.

Have you heard of anyone apart from Snoop Dogg?


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19 Aug 2010, 5:35 pm

Bethie wrote:
I don't see why everyone's ragging on you.
I completely agree.

With few exceptions, the black people I've met are LOUD, to the point of shouting, obnoxious, and insensitive to others.


Funny thing is, over here a lot of people think that about all Americans. Especially the rich ones :D


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19 Aug 2010, 7:09 pm

OneStepBeyond wrote:
Aspie_Chav wrote:
However, they do make a nuisance at car boot sales.


lmao


Aspie_Chav is just upset because my Mum beat him to the James Brown LP he was after. ;)


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19 Aug 2010, 7:11 pm

this tread is so offensive. :roll:


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19 Aug 2010, 7:46 pm

BigK wrote:
OneStepBeyond wrote:
Aspie_Chav wrote:
However, they do make a nuisance at car boot sales.


lmao


Aspie_Chav is just upset because my Mum beat him to the James Brown LP he was after. ;)


ahaha :D
alls fair in love and bootsales



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19 Aug 2010, 8:13 pm

I believe the current PC nomenclature is "poor urban culture", and this is one of the few times that I'll endorse the PC line as being more accurate. Between my dating habits and my white friends that grew up poor in the city who are culturally indistinguishable from the BET stereotype, I feel justified in saying that the culture and behavior under discussion is far from racially exclusive.


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20 Aug 2010, 12:01 am

Dox47 wrote:
I believe the current PC nomenclature is "poor urban culture", and this is one of the few times that I'll endorse the PC line as being more accurate. Between my dating habits and my white friends that grew up poor in the city who are culturally indistinguishable from the BET stereotype, I feel justified in saying that the culture and behavior under discussion is far from racially exclusive.


In UK a high percentage of white Brits r begginit much more then the US. I believe this is an indirect result of the negative effects of socialism.

Even alcoholism is a problem over here, where it is far easier for alcoholics to survive then it would be in the States where they most likely starve or left unable to pay bills. It also becoming a problem in Russia also in ways that could not happen in the states.



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20 Aug 2010, 3:03 am

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No one seems to remember the black church going communities. No one remembers the people who work hard at school, get degrees, get good jobs, become president. etc

Yes! There is a tendency to only notice people (of all races) who are loud and obnoxious, because they are by definition calling attention to themselves.

There are disturbing elements to at least some gangsta rap, like degradation of women, emphasis on acquiring material possessions, glorification of violence and over the top machismo, but let's not forget that 70% of rap music is bought by young white men.



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20 Aug 2010, 8:39 am

Wannabe gangstas are just annoyin', they should be schooled by the real mafia. :twisted: :P



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20 Aug 2010, 12:40 pm

However, most of the "white men" buying this kind of crap
tend to be more aggressive, crude and not treat women
very well,not to mention low self-esteem and
without a moral compass, so this says something about the product, the
buyers, as well as the producers of such a poison.
This type of culture (whatever color you want to label it)
is detrimental to the health of everyone as a whole.

(Like I said earlier, the effect it has on all our youth
is alarming)

Concerned mum,
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20 Aug 2010, 1:14 pm

I heard someone say something before, maybe the author of a book with a title like, "The Collapse of Western Civilization" or something to that affect, that "civilization is on the rise when the lower class mimics the higher class, and it is on the decline when the higher class mimics the lower class" Maybe someone can help me with this one, but I tend to look at black culture as what white america has been looking up to for awhile now, and I feel like, socially, we are on a decline because of it. It is just a feeling, as I haven't lived in any other time periods, but I do associate the quote and what is happening today together. Hopefully, it's just the effect of the assimilation process.



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20 Aug 2010, 1:27 pm

anjie wrote:
However, most of the "white men" buying this kind of crap
tend to be more aggressive, crude and not treat women
very well,not to mention low self-esteem and
without a moral compass, so this says something about the product, the
buyers, as well as the producers of such a poison.
This type of culture (whatever color you want to label it)
is detrimental to the health of everyone as a whole.

(Like I said earlier, the effect it has on all our youth
is alarming)

Concerned mum,
Anjie


I think you're confusing pop culture for black culture. I could point to the same thing with white artists and white women who buy the garbage and act just as trashy and lack a moral compass.

Also, I'm into black culture, at least as far as American music goes, and I'm none of those things. But then again, I was raised in a nice home that had a nice income and went to pretty decent schools. Most of the people who are trashy like that tend to be the people without a good home life and without any real sense of moral guidance.

But then again, I was into punk when I was younger and there's nothing but a ton of moral guidance there both socially and between the sexes; so, I guess maybe I would have turned out different had I been listening to the pop culture rap of the day instead of Bad Religion and NOFX. The rap I listen to now is more underground stuff that tends to have political messages to it and tend to be a little more positive. Some of it is about partying and all of that but everyone does something different.


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