Did anyone but me not care when 9/11 happened?

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I think it was the loss of relatives no matter the age, if I'm not mistaken, now, this is ruveyn's anecdotal experience, and he has come up with opinions that are unacceptable within our current standards given that, and we know which place for anecdotal experiences are in the PPR forum anyway, so much as this was a subjective rant.

We certainly have a way of kicking butt when angered. For example:



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A lot of the kids I was with during 9/11/2001 (we were high school kids back then) just laughed at the event. It was funny actually. So suddenly USA is not as invulnerable as they portrayed themselves. Many of us actually felt like "finally".

Of course, later we learned that it was in fact no joke and the whole event was a contrived plot device used to do a lot of crap. Including two (hopefully not three+) pointless wars for oil... errr...liberation, made plane travel much harder due to draconian screening and was also an excuse to take away tons of civil rights from Americans.

Did you know more US soldiers died in Afghanistan this year than in the years between 2001 an 2008?

What a load of insensitive jerks must have been enrolled in your schools.



Yet again Julius Caesar is proven correct that people most easily believe that which they already do.



Are you actually making a stab against Obama or is this going to turn into yet another, "it's all Bush's fault"?

That is because they are not us.

And as is well known: sh*t happens.

ruveyn

And your not 'us' for the rest of the world, summary of feelings for me was, 'oh so someone has smacked the as*holes back' and then surprise surprise it was your own people what schmucks....

Yes I do believe in Karma, karma live direct an' in full effect inna de area - wise up suckers!

We were kids. Jerks? Maybe. Whoever, unless you want to live in self-deception for the rest of your life. A lot , and I got to say a lot of people all over the world probably had the same first reaction. I am sorry but the world is full of countries that have had a bad story thanks to US. In my case we went through perhaps too many dictatorships and corrupt governments thanks to USA and that was back in 2001. Some time later, 2003 on we went once again through ton of crap and USA was all around, again. I don't feel any blame whatsoever for not having gotten pity or sadness as my first reaction of a couple of buildings in NY collapsing (and to be honest, we really didn't have any idea of what was the scale or the details as it was early in the morning when we learned of it and we were still in class so all we knew was that a plane crashed on a building). After a while I did feel bad for the innocentss but my first reaction was not it, it was a haha. And you can blame me for being honest, but I doubt I am the only one who felt that way. I think there are at least millions who did the same.

I feel a lot more disgusted by the crap USA caused afterwards in them middle west. The last thing we needed was two more wars in there. All in all this whole situation has made me intolerant to letting "Patriots" showcase 9/11 as a moment in which the rest of the world should feel sorry for them. Since to me, 9/11 is an example of the reasons we shouldn't let USA take the lead in any international affairs. Don't get me wrong, thousands died and it was an outrageous act, but was more outrageous was how USA used those lost lives as an excuse to extend even more war across the world and even screw its own citizens.

Feel free to believe that.

Who DIDN'T lose relatives during the war? It was a global conflict after all.

I didn't care much. I was 8 at the time and I was more bothered about the fact that the news was on instead of CITV. I was not happy about that, because I watched CITV as soon as I came home from school, but this day the news was on. And just moaned about it a lot.

Because, obviously, one attack on the US is a lot worse than the many bombings that go on in other less fortunate countries every day. After all, white people got killed!

Honestly, horrible things happen all the time to many people. It's tragic whenever it happens, no matter who it happens to or what country it happens in. But I don't see how American lives being lost is any worse than the lives lost in other countries where terrorism is so common that the news rarely bothers to even report it anymore, not to mention third world countries where people can't even afford food or water. We're still talking about innocent people either way.

Maybe to be expressed in polite society, but then I was never a big believer in the standards of society, I doubt Ruveyn is either. Personally, I prefer the guy who I never have any doubt about where he stands, I think too much emphasis these days is placed upon concealing opinions that "society" might frown upon rather than being honest about things.

Have a care topic

Not everyone feels emotion in the same way. I was nine years of age when JFK was assassinated and I came home from school to find it on TV. I was upset because my mother was. I felt like I was hit when I saw Lee Harvey Oswald shot by Jack Ruby on prime time TV. the images of that day are seared into my mind, perhaps because I am so visual, I do not know.

My son and youngest daughter were 10 and just turning 7, respectively, and they did not react, even when seeing the film footage of the towers being hit, and their subsequent collapse. They did not see people being killed, though they did see people crying and upset.

9/11 bothered me, though when I first saw one plane crash into one tower I thought it might have been part of a movie set, for a split second, but then one second later I realized it was neither an accident nor a movie. When I think of what those 19 peices of human evil did, the pictures in my mind are horrifying, and I am very angry.

errrr, I should have said "opinions of *things* that are unnaceptable.........." instead. I mean I'm not an advocate of censorship because of such opinions, that would be too PC.

This is one of the few times I happen to agree with you. The Japanese internment camps along the Pacific Coast of the United States and Canada represents a black mark on each nation's history.

To the OP:

When New York 9/11 first occurred I was a bit too young to understand the significance of the event. Within a few years I realized how horrible the event was. A few years after that I realized how horrible the Chilean 9/11 was. After that I began paying more attention to what goes on in the world and now I'm pretty jaded.

Not as black as Wounded Knee. That was outright murder. Or the march of the Cherokee tribe westward -- The Trail of Tears. Half the Cherokee nation died on that march. It was the American version of the Bataan Death March.

The camps to which the Japanese-Americans were sent, were internment camps, not death camps like the Germans had. And bit by bit Japanese-American men of military age were allowed to enlist in the Army and fight in Europe, where they distinguished themselves by valor. They had a lot to prove. Virtually every Japanese-American placed in the camps was eventually released and their rights restored, but many lost their property (held before the war) forever.

It was not the brightest display of respect for rights. Any American claims that this nation is the City on the Hill are essentially bogus. We are not the worst nation ever, but we are surely not the best either.

ruveyn