Do you know a religious person who ISN'T hypocrite?

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Right. I understand that situation perfectly. For instance, many Americans planning on going abroad sew Canadian flags onto their packs to borrow our good international tourist reputation. I am sure that some portion of those go on to act like boors and diminish our reputation.

So it seems to be that the best pay out for a reprehensible person would be to associate and claim membership among a group noted for its decency. Better a Christian than an Atheist if you are up to no good. After all, we atheists have a poor reputation.



I agree with that, but that doesnt help when you first meet someone. In fact, doesnt it make sense to be somewhat cynical? Much like going to a movie. If you believe the hype, the movie never lives up to it. Better to go in with an empty expectation.

Really now, it's only the few Atheists who were once in power in various nations in the 20th century who sought to indoctrinate populaces that were really any bother to me, or perhaps that type in specific which advocates indoctrination "for the greater good" or some such. Aside from them there are a few quite respectable Atheists, such as Voltaire who said, "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."

Sure, but we arent talking about up front atheists or even atheists hiding themselves among the faithful(though that happens for various reasons).

We are talking, as per the topic, about amoral hypocrites. Specifically, everyone is a hypocrite about something, but where might one find the most odious examples? Where is it most advantageous for one to embed themselves?

I don't know. Each atheist has their own version of morality, possibly, so whether they hold to their own standard is up to them. Christians are just easier targets because we have a set code, i.e. the Bible, which we are suppose to follow. When our actions are in contradiction to what God's will in the Bible says it's easier to call it out since it is publicly known rather than hidden away in the mind of an individual.

Interesting, and Christ spoke to the religious leaders: "So you also outwardly appear righteous to others, but within you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness."

Matthew 23:28

Yeah, and to Samuel He had said that man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart.

Everyone's hypocritical.
So no I haven't, especially when they're creatards.

I disagree. Atheists do have a set moral code. The difference between atheists and Christians in this matter is Christians are open about where their moral comes from. Atheists are not. It's a product of "evolution" and survival. They obey the same 10 Commandments as we do, basically, but just conveniently ignore all the parts about worshipping God. A Christian should note that atheists very often do show a higher degree of "moral" behavior than some Christians. The difference here is a matter of motivation for action--unbelievers are motivated by personal desires rather than a desire to glorify God. Paul, in writing to the various churches, noted that God had written the law on the hearts of the Gentiles, even though He only gave the Law to the Jews straight up. Therefore we understand that atheists have "the law" of God just as much as we do. The main difference is we recognize the Source from which "the law" derives.