What is it with Liberal Progressives Anyways
I know some phenomenally stupid rich folks. Even granting that those are likely the exception rather than the rule, I would bet that the typical math professor is much more intelligent than the typical corporate executive, but the former is paid quite a bit less.
I'd say being a corporate executive takes machiavellian intelligence, similar to "street smarts". They may be dumb as a doorknob when it comes to anything that doesn't involve smooth talking and/or scheming ways to make more money. I'd even be tempted to postulate that greed and intellectual curiosity are inversely correlated as greedy people tend to be shallow people.
Beck is not stupid, he is shallow. But he has turned his shallowness into a large income. If you are smarter than Beck, why aren't you richer than Beck?
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So, by that logic, Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, Jersey Shore, and all of that s**t is smarter than people such as Stephen Hawkings, because they are rich?
The Bush administration's re-election pollsters were extremely concerned about Michael Moore's film "Fahrenheit 9/11" costing him the election back in 2004. Apparently they even tried to stop a screening of the film in New Zealand. If Michael Moore's film was just spewing hot air, what was the Bush administration so worried about?
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mike-friends-blog/another-wikileaks-cable
Okay... Seriously, if this is true why didn't MSNBC, CNN, ABC, and the rest of the left-wing drive by media not pick up on this. Considering their out and out hatred of Bush which is second only to their hatred of Palin.
I've actually found many professors may be intelligent in their chosen field, but are also as dumb as a box of rocks when it comes to common sense. I would honestly say many corporate executives are more intelligent than a math professor when it comes to managing something. You know the quickest way to destroy a business is to get an accountant or lawyer and listen to their advice as to how to run said business.
In all honesty, I don't think you are smarter than Beck. You may think you are smarter than Glenn Beck, but that doesn't mean you are smarter it could just mean you are an elitist. The man is a writer (that includes fiction novels, political books, children's books, etc.), a talk show host, a successful entrepeneur, etc. He is an avid reader and in fact enjoys doing research. I wouldn't put it past him to actually learn braille if he ends up going blind due to macular degeneration (sp?). The interesting thing about elitists is that they actually are not as smart as they think they are. They look down on people whom don't agree with them as being inferior and then are surprised when the people reject them.
For someone whom claims he doesn't think all businessmen are stupid or evil, what you just said sure makes it seem like you weren't being completely honest.
I know some phenomenally stupid rich folks. Even granting that those are likely the exception rather than the rule, I would bet that the typical math professor is much more intelligent than the typical corporate executive, but the former is paid quite a bit less.
I'd say being a corporate executive takes machiavellian intelligence, similar to "street smarts". They may be dumb as a doorknob when it comes to anything that doesn't involve smooth talking and/or scheming ways to make more money. I'd even be tempted to postulate that greed and intellectual curiosity are inversely correlated as greedy people tend to be shallow people.
Yes, they do tend to be good at social networking and using/manipulating others to reach their own ends, although they are completely lacking in any interest in anything other than obtaining wealth and living a life of luxury. I suppose they are sort of the antithesis of Aspies.
The autistic spectrum apparently goes {Politicians and businessmen}--{Normal people}--{mathematicians and engineers}
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Well the left-wing media was still skittish due to an incident that outraged mainstream Americans to the point they were worried about losing all their viewers to say the least.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... weathermen
If you look at the date of the article you can see why the public was so angry and it made the liberal outlets skittish.
The Bush administration's re-election pollsters were extremely concerned about Michael Moore's film "Fahrenheit 9/11" costing him the election back in 2004. Apparently they even tried to stop a screening of the film in New Zealand. If Michael Moore's film was just spewing hot air, what was the Bush administration so worried about?
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mike-friends-blog/another-wikileaks-cable
Okay... Seriously, if this is true why didn't MSNBC, CNN, ABC, and the rest of the left-wing drive by media not pick up on this. Considering their out and out hatred of Bush which is second only to their hatred of Palin.
Umm. Maybe because the "left-wing media" aren't interested in beating a trivial dead horse because they realize there are much more important issues to deal with now.
But that isn't the point. The point is you made a logically fallacious argument. The fact that Obama was worried about Glenn Beck causing bad PR for him does not prove that Glenn Beck's smear campaign against Obama was anything more than a smear campaign. You throw out accusations and there are going to be people who take them seriously, regardless of whether they are true. The point is to cause questioning and generate a negative impression and it works. That's why political campaigns spend millions of dollars on misleading attack ads. They don't have to be completely true and factual to work. All politicians know this.
I've actually found many professors may be intelligent in their chosen field, but are also as dumb as a box of rocks when it comes to common sense. I would honestly say many corporate executives are more intelligent than a math professor when it comes to managing something. You know the quickest way to destroy a business is to get an accountant or lawyer and listen to their advice as to how to run said business.
"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." - Albert Einstein
I think the philosophy expressed here explains why, despite completely revolutionizing the world of physics, Einstein always lived a rather modest lifestyle. The process of discovery itself was much more enthralling to him than the mere after-affects of fame and fortune.
For someone whom claims he doesn't think all businessmen are stupid or evil, what you just said sure makes it seem like you weren't being completely honest.
Where did I say that all businessmen are stupid and/or evil? You are reading too much between the lines. I'm merely pointing out a human tendency that I've picked up on from my years of working with people.
As a general rule, intellectuals (such as scientists , engineers, etc.) are not as proficient self-sellers as businessmen or politicians. I've run across plenty of business people who are successful despite being full of crap in terms of actual knowledge. Also, as an aspie I tend to see myself as the antithesis of a business person. I relate more to someone like Einstein (I'm not claiming I'm a genius here, just that I can personally relate to his thinking style more than I can relate to the thinking style of a successful CEO). Yet it seems like it's the right-wing elitists such as Ruveyn who like to put successful business people up on a pedestal and label people who are intelligent yet unable to properly sell themselves as inferior human specimens.
Don't forget food insurance!
http://www.businessinsider.com/glenn-beck-food-insurance-2010-10
Let me guess; you define "common sense" as "agreeing with your political views."
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Producing a large volume of writing does not necessarily speak to intelligence, nor does getting it published (there is an astonishing quantity of garbage in print). As to myself, I am studying several majors at a top-50 institution which I attend on full academic scholarship. I turned down an acceptance to Oxford University and a full ride merit scholarship to the Ivy League. Perhaps I am an elitist, but I am also reasonably intelligent. And lastly, I do not look down on people who disagree with me as inferior. I do not look down on AG, Dox47, or Master_Pedant, and yet I disagree with each of them on several things. I do look down on people who demonstrate themselves to be unintelligent.
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I know some phenomenally stupid rich folks. Even granting that those are likely the exception rather than the rule, I would bet that the typical math professor is much more intelligent than the typical corporate executive, but the former is paid quite a bit less.
I'd say being a corporate executive takes machiavellian intelligence, similar to "street smarts". They may be dumb as a doorknob when it comes to anything that doesn't involve smooth talking and/or scheming ways to make more money. I'd even be tempted to postulate that greed and intellectual curiosity are inversely correlated as greedy people tend to be shallow people.
Yes, they do tend to be good at social networking and using/manipulating others to reach their own ends, although they are completely lacking in any interest in anything other than obtaining wealth and living a life of luxury. I suppose they are sort of the antithesis of Aspies.
The autistic spectrum apparently goes {Politicians and businessmen}--{Normal people}--{mathematicians and engineers}
Eh, not really. How much do you know about management? How many businessmen do you know personally?(people who's job is to manage a business or to measure people) Its not all about manipulation(although manipulation itself is not always a bad thing). How much do you know about economics on the human level? There is absolutely no reason(or justification) to polarize businessmen and people with ASDs, The overlap between the two can be quite extensive Business is something that can be learned readily by those willing to put in the energy. I would like to say more but I should probably wait for you to answer my questions.
This is a good way to understand what Beck is saying and why it appeals to certain people. There's the pulling one's self out of the gutter story without help, there's the Social Darwinism which gets support partly because many people feel that they've already been cast in a Social Darwinian jungle themselves ... it's just "reality" that this is how things are and that there's a certain justice there. There's a bit of Just World Theory, there's the ode to the Small Businessman, there's the whining about how success is demonised and the suggestion that this encourages failure. There's also this idea that the Power of the Will conquers all ... it is a false form of empowerment. The usual propaganda slogans are there - "Tax 'n Spend", "Big Government", "common sense", "Personal Responsibility". There's even some racism thrown in with this tasteless minstrel act accent in the first part.
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The part about people being created equally but not ending up equally is interesting because in fact the opposite is true. Someone is born in a hut in Africa is not equal to someone born in a high tech hospital in a Western country but when one's vital signs flatline, well, everyone is equal in that. When they said "each man is created equal" it was in terms of being human and having full rights - is he suggesting that people become classed as worthy and unworthy and either have more than human rights and less than human rights based on how successful they are in life?
Let me guess; you define "common sense" as "agreeing with your political views."
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]In all honesty, I don't think you are smarter than Beck. You may think you are smarter than Glenn Beck, but that doesn't mean you are smarter it could just mean you are an elitist. The man is a writer (that includes fiction novels, political books, children's books, etc.), a talk show host, a successful entrepeneur, etc. He is an avid reader and in fact enjoys doing research. I wouldn't put it past him to actually learn braille if he ends up going blind due to macular degeneration (sp?). The interesting thing about elitists is that they actually are not as smart as they think they are. They look down on people whom don't agree with them as being inferior and then are surprised when the people reject them.
There's different aspects of intelligence. Academic intelligence isn't the only type out there, so it's easy to think professors are smarter overall if that's the only thing that counts to you. Entrepreneurs are the antithesis of Aspies huh? Cuz we're incapable of being selfish right? I'm not even gonna bother, I've addressed this AS superiority complex a million times in the past so have fun being blissfully ignorant.
@ Vexcalibur: Niiice now I'm a troll. Forget the fact that I both agreed and disagreed with Inuyasha's points
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The part about people being created equally but not ending up equally is interesting because in fact the opposite is true. Someone is born in a hut in Africa is not equal to someone born in a high tech hospital in a Western country but when one's vital signs flatline, well, everyone is equal in that. When they said "each man is created equal" it was in terms of being human and having full rights - is he suggesting that people become classed as worthy and unworthy and either have more than human rights and less than human rights based on how successful they are in life?
Someone who is both intelligent and compassionate won't believe the platitudes this guy spouts. Healthcare is not a right? Why? Because people choose to get sick with an illness they can't afford to treat? This kind of thinking is truly twisted. The guy really needs an ass kicking.
Not at all. Aspies simply can't play the social game required in the business world, and successful businessman don't generally have the same sort of single-minded focus on a given interest that Aspies do.Not at all. Aspies simply can't play the social game required in the business world, and successful businessman don't generally have the same sort of single-minded focus on a given interest that Aspies do. Businessmen are highly extraverted whereas Aspies are highly intraverted.
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WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH