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09 Jan 2011, 9:29 pm

The "co-conspirator" turned out to simply be the driver of the cab the shooter took to get to the shopping center. The cops don't have any more interest in him.


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09 Jan 2011, 9:34 pm

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He was opposed to the government because he said they were employing "mind control" to people illiterate and stop them from dreaming. Completely coherent. :roll: Stop trying to push your agenda, it's pathetic. You people are excited to blame this on your enemies, you're almost as sick as Jared Loughner.


Sad part is I'm not surprised and the leftist media is trying to do the same thing the liberals on Wrong Planet are. It is disgusting that they would pull a stunt like this.

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Anyhow whats the deal with this co-conspirator that the sherrif was talking about last night? Have they found him yet? I wouldnt be suprised if this individual is far from liberal given his potential involvment in a terrorist assasination plot to murder a Democrat.


Apparently she has been siding against Pelosi of late, so technically she would be considered the Right's favorate Democrat. Conservatives would have no motive.



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09 Jan 2011, 9:34 pm

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I see alot of extreme anti statism in his views. Kind of like a less logical Mcveigh.

Anyhow whats the deal with this co-conspirator that the sherrif was talking about last night? Have they found him yet? I wouldnt be suprised if this individual is far from liberal given his potential involvment in a terrorist assasination plot to murder a Democrat.


he also was a big fan of the Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf. I wouldn't read too much into his views, they didn't make sense.



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09 Jan 2011, 9:35 pm

Jacoby wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
I see alot of extreme anti statism in his views. Kind of like a less logical Mcveigh.

Anyhow whats the deal with this co-conspirator that the sherrif was talking about last night? Have they found him yet? I wouldnt be suprised if this individual is far from liberal given his potential involvment in a terrorist assasination plot to murder a Democrat.


he also was a big fan of the Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf. I wouldn't read too much into his views, they didn't make sense.


Agreed, further this guy was obsessed with her since 2007, well before Sarah Palin was a national figure.



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09 Jan 2011, 10:02 pm

I wouldnt like to be a liberal official put under Sarah Palins "crosshairs" in the future. Could spell a messy end.



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09 Jan 2011, 10:05 pm

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I wouldnt like to be a liberal official put under Sarah Palins "crosshairs" in the future. Could spell a messy end.


:roll:

Seriously, what you're saying is completely idiotic.



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09 Jan 2011, 10:36 pm

[quote="TenFaces"What is wrong with the Tea Party and why do we assume they are racist.?[/quote]
An observation is not the same thing as an assumption.


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09 Jan 2011, 10:44 pm

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What is wrong with the Tea Party and why do we assume they are racist.?

An observation is not the same thing as an assumption.


And smearing an entire group of people (which is what you did just now) for political purposes is different from an honest observation.

http://frontpagemag.com/2010/04/15/sabo ... a-parties/



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09 Jan 2011, 10:47 pm

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I think the guy that did it let the conservative rhetoric in the media go to his head.

My thoughts on possible ramifications:

1. If the guy was Tea Party, or the Tea party was involved in any way, they may have signed their own death warrant.

2. Possible censoring of the News Media, specifically Fox News.

3. Some form of Gun Control.

What do you think America?


None...the guy was just crazy.



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09 Jan 2011, 10:54 pm

The fact that this guy is mentally ill and that not one person in the media has bothered to bring up the fact that he should have and still does not a lot of help make me sick.

The media has turned this in a left vs right hate on Sarah Palin and the Tea Party.

Heck Sarah Palin has a child with Down syndrome. This whole thing has only showen me that we learnd nothing from the Columbine High School massacre. And we those with Autism, Aspergers, ADD, ADHD, and so on are losing the fight here.

We are losing big time and it make me really sad that A) The kid was able to get to the point. B) That people had to die. C) That no one will look at the real issue and problem and that people like Jenny McCarhy are just going to get more power from this and those with mentally health issues will fall even more.

This whole event should open up peoples eyes to the problems That we face ever day but it's not.



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09 Jan 2011, 11:20 pm

Cryforthemoon wrote:
The fact that this guy is mentally ill and that not one person in the media has bothered to bring up the fact that he should have and still does not a lot of help make me sick.

The media has turned this in a left vs right hate on Sarah Palin and the Tea Party.

Heck Sarah Palin has a child with Down syndrome. This whole thing has only showen me that we learnd nothing from the Columbine High School massacre. And we those with Autism, Aspergers, ADD, ADHD, and so on are losing the fight here.

We are losing big time and it make me really sad that A) The kid was able to get to the point. B) That people had to die. C) That no one will look at the real issue and problem and that people like Jenny McCarhy are just going to get more power from this and those with mentally health issues will fall even more.

This whole event should open up peoples eyes to the problems That we face ever day but it's not.
I stand behind this 100%. It's a goddamn shame what this tragedy has degenerated into...



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09 Jan 2011, 11:24 pm

AceOfSpades wrote:
Cryforthemoon wrote:
The fact that this guy is mentally ill and that not one person in the media has bothered to bring up the fact that he should have and still does not a lot of help make me sick.

The media has turned this in a left vs right hate on Sarah Palin and the Tea Party.

Heck Sarah Palin has a child with Down syndrome. This whole thing has only showen me that we learnd nothing from the Columbine High School massacre. And we those with Autism, Aspergers, ADD, ADHD, and so on are losing the fight here.

We are losing big time and it make me really sad that A) The kid was able to get to the point. B) That people had to die. C) That no one will look at the real issue and problem and that people like Jenny McCarhy are just going to get more power from this and those with mentally health issues will fall even more.

This whole event should open up peoples eyes to the problems That we face ever day but it's not.
I stand behind this 100%. It's a goddamn shame what this tragedy has degenerated into...


Amen.



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09 Jan 2011, 11:30 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Orwell wrote:
TenFaces wrote:
What is wrong with the Tea Party and why do we assume they are racist.?

An observation is not the same thing as an assumption.


And smearing an entire group of people (which is what you did just now) for political purposes is different from an honest observation.

http://frontpagemag.com/2010/04/15/sabo ... a-parties/

Eh. I usually am more careful to specify that only a portion of the Tea Party is racist, but the rabid right will always take it as some sort of collective insult regardless, so why bother mincing words?


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09 Jan 2011, 11:33 pm

Orwell, if we must observe and believe that the Tea Party is racist, then let us go on.
Woodrow Wilson, Democrat-NJ president 1913-1921. Openly racist against blacks and Asians. Fought against any civil rights for blacks. Supported, lobbied for, and signed Asian Exclusion Acts, which limited Asians immigration, limited their civil rights even when legally in the US, and expelled Asians from the US, even some that were born here. Supported and signed Espionage Act 1917, an early Patriot Act but worse. Limited right of free political association. Wilson set up concentration camps for Germans, even US citizens. FDR set up camps for Japanese, Italans, Germans. Southern Democrats opposed black civil rights. Democrats like "Bull" Conner assaulted black demonstrators.
Why don't we assume all Democrats are racist.

Democrats are racist. Now, maybe Obama isn't racist against blacks, but he must be racist against Asians. Since Wilson hated Asians, then Obama must. Of course, Obama probably isn't racist, but we must observe the rule that all Democrats are racist.



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09 Jan 2011, 11:34 pm

Orwell wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Orwell wrote:
TenFaces wrote:
What is wrong with the Tea Party and why do we assume they are racist.?

An observation is not the same thing as an assumption.


And smearing an entire group of people (which is what you did just now) for political purposes is different from an honest observation.

http://frontpagemag.com/2010/04/15/sabo ... a-parties/

Eh. I usually am more careful to specify that only a portion of the Tea Party is racist, but the rabid right will always take it as some sort of collective insult regardless, so why bother mincing words?


Probably less than 5% of members of the tea party are racist, if that. The overwhelming majority couldn't care less what color a person's skin is.



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10 Jan 2011, 12:11 am

Fox obviously think's that Giffords is a goner as to her future career in frontline politics. They are doing mawkish mock sincere and loving tributes (mentioning her husbands military background etc). I'd love to see this come back and bite them in the ass in the future.

Personally i'd like to see a:


Image

Victim

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Executioner

...race in 2012. Only one winner in my opinion. I suggest you start panicking now. 8)