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26 Mar 2011, 8:09 pm

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It has military bases in over a hundred countries. It's political control is waning but still strong. Look at its client dictators in the middle east. It also funds regimes and dictators it likes direct from the US public purse. Not really an empire in the classic sense but it has effective control over territory. More so in the 20th century but still existing to this day.

What you say applies very much in the early 20th century. The U.S. sent the Marines to Nicaragua to guarantee the Liberty and Property of United Fruit Co. But that sort of blatant intervention pretty well ceased after WW2.

The U.S. let Cuba and the Philipine's go Gand Puerto Rico election after election ratifies its "common wealth status" with the U.S. It beats being a State.

As to our bases, they remain because the governments of the countries where they are located want them there. If, for example, Japan insisted that the U.S. remove its troops from Okinowa, it would be done. The presence of U.S. military basis in most of the place where they are located are seen as an economic benefit to the country of location.

If the U.S. ever pulled its troops out of Europe, the Germans would have a fit. Without the U.S. Germany would actually have to pay for its own defense.

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27 Mar 2011, 2:19 pm

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Lol. Funny you mention Nicaragua, you never heard of Iran contra? The US spent almost the entirety of the 21 st century bringing dictators to power in LA and supporting terrorists movements that sought to overthrow elected regimes. Ever heard of the Vietnam war? It also tried to control asia and Africa. Washington sees the entire world as a giant game of Risk! and it controls and shapes the leaderships of world governments in order to protect its economic interests. Just as the British Empire did before it and the Roman empire did before that. The 21st century however will be the century of The Chinese empire. It's a good job i like rice that's all i can say!

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14 Apr 2011, 5:29 pm

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14 Apr 2011, 5:38 pm

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Syrian ambassador calls for "legal action" against Lebanese lawmaker interfering in Syrian affairs
English.news.cn 2011-04-14 23:53:45 FeedbackPrintRSS
BEIRUT, April 15 (Xinhua) -- Syria's ambassador to Beirut urged the Lebanese government Thursday to take legal action against a lawmaker accused of funding and arming protesters in Syria.

In an interview published on a website affiliated with Shiite armed group Hezbollah, Ambassador Ali Abdel-Karim Ali called on the Lebanese government and judiciary "to take action in order to preserve brotherly ties between the two countries."

Ali spoke one day after the Syrian state-run television aired what it described as the "confessions" of a three-member terrorist cell, who said they received weapons and money from the Lebanese Sunni lawmaker to fuel the unrest in Syria.

The Hezbollah website quoted Ali as saying that interference by some Lebanese factions in the events in Syria were "very dangerous and could harm brotherly ties between Lebanon and Syria."

The Syrian ambassador said that the "confessions" aired Wednesday were only the tip of the iceberg.

Protests flared in Syria on March 15, calling for an end to a decades-old state of emergency and demanding broad political reforms. Syrian authorities have accused "armed groups" of fueling the violence.

But Jarrah, who is a member of the anti-Syrian Future Movement of outgoing Lebanese Prime Minister Saad Hariri, denied the accusations.

The Future Movement also issued a statement saying that none of its MPs has any connection with the events in Syria.

Syria's ally Hezbollah said that the Future Movement's claim that it was not interfering in Syrian domestic affairs was "not convincing."

Ties between Damascus and the Future Movement greatly suffered in the aftermath of the 2005 assassination of the group's head, former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri, which was widely blamed on Syria at the time.

Syria has repeatedly denied these allegations but was forced to end a 29-year military presence in Lebanon on April 26, 2005.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/w ... 829487.htm

That's like accusing Canada for interfering in US affairs :lmao:

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23 Apr 2011, 5:39 am

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23 Apr 2011, 5:44 am

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23 Apr 2011, 3:34 pm

At least 120 dead after 2 days of unrest in Syria

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42727431/ns ... /n_africa/

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23 Apr 2011, 4:45 pm

Shocking. Looks the like the tactics of these dictatorships is to repeatedly use force hoping the demonstrators will just give up and go away.

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23 Apr 2011, 6:45 pm

The Arab awakening began not in Tunisia this year, but in Lebanon in 2005

In reality, the "Arab awakening" began not in Tunisia this year, but in Lebanon in 2005 when, appalled by the assassination of ex-prime minister Rafiq Hariri (Saad's father), hundreds of thousands of Lebanese of all faiths gathered in central Beirut to demand the withdrawal of Syria's 20,000 soldiers in the country.

Bachar made a pitiful speech in Damascus, abusing the demonstrators, suggesting that live television cameras were using "zooms" to exaggerate the number of the crowds.

But the UN passed a resolution – a no-soldier zone, which forced the Syrian military to leave.

This was the first "ousting" of a dictator, albeit from someone else's country,
by the popular Arab "masses" which had hitherto been an institution in the hands of the dictators.

Yet I recall at the time that none of us – including myself, who had lived in Lebanon for decades – realised how deeply the Syrian claws had dug into the red soil of Lebanon over the previous 29 years. Syria's Lebanese stooges remained in place. Their "mukhabarat" security police simply re-emerged in transmogrified form.

Their political murders continued at whirlwind speed. I spent days chasing from the scene of one car bomb or hit-job to another. This is what terrifies the demonstrators of all the nations struggling to throw off their brutal – and often American-supported – masters. Field Marshal Tantawi, the head of the Egyptian army, for example, is now running Egypt. Yet he is not only a close friend of America but a childhood and lifelong friend of Mubarak, who was allowed to whinge the usual ex-dictator's self-congratulatory excuses on al-Arabia television ("my reputation, my integrity and my military and political record") prior to his own questioning – and inevitable emergency entry into hospital. When the latest Tahrir Square crowds also called for Tantawi's resignation, the field marshal's mask slipped. He sent in his troops to "cleanse" the square.

When the Iranians, in their millions, demonstrated against Mahmoud Ahmedinejad's dodgy presidential election results in June of 2009, many members of the "green" movement in Tehran asked me about the 2005 Lebanese revolution against Syria – dubbed the "Cedar Revolution" by the US State Department, a cliché that never really caught on among the Lebanese themselves – and while there was no direct political connection, there was undoubtedly an inspirational junction; two sets of tracks of the same gauge which reinforced the idea that the youth of Tehran and Beirut belonged to the same transport system of humanity and freedom.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/co ... 68002.html

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23 Apr 2011, 8:26 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

The Arab awakening began not in Tunisia this year, but in Lebanon in 2005

If that's where it started, then that doesn't bode well for the rest of the region, because it's also the first to fizzle out and succumb to the Islamist rule of Hezbollah, which happened in two separate coups (2008 and 2011).

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24 Apr 2011, 4:00 am

DevilInPgh wrote:

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

The Arab awakening began not in Tunisia this year, but in Lebanon in 2005

There was no revolution's aftermath which was smooth , most revolutions' aftermaths in the human history were complicated and got obstacles.

Hezbollah will become weak once Assad falls.

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25 Apr 2011, 7:30 am

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25 Apr 2011, 12:01 pm

Where are the UN troops and airstrikes in Syria? We intervened in Libya to stop the civilian massacres, what's the difference here? Surely, we didn't have ulterior motives in Libya. :roll:

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25 Apr 2011, 12:06 pm

Jacoby wrote:

Where are the UN troops and airstrikes in Syria? We intervened in Libya to stop the civilian massacres, what's the difference here? Surely, we didn't have ulterior motives in Libya. :roll:

How much oil in Syria?

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25 Apr 2011, 12:08 pm

ruveyn wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

Where are the UN troops and airstrikes in Syria? We intervened in Libya to stop the civilian massacres, what's the difference here? Surely, we didn't have ulterior motives in Libya. :roll:

How much oil in Syria?

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lol

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