George Soros and Media Matters have gone unhinged
Inuyasha wrote:
Bethie wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Keep telling yourself that, if you want to see a news corporation lieing look at the New York Times.
Aaaand still a tu quoque....
In English, and why do I get the feeling that if translated it will be something that is arguably flamebait...
"Tu quoque" means "you, also" in Latin. It's a type of rhetorical fallacy that relies on appealing to the hypocrisy of the opposing person for not showing a consistent stance on the subject matter of the argument. The fallacy is an example of ad hominem, because its focus rests on the person making the argument rather than the validity of the argument itself.
Inuyasha wrote:
Vexcalibur wrote:
You mean like Rupert Murdoch?
Murdoch is not responsible for collapsing currencies of countries.
No but he does have a major say in the electoral process of democratic states. His Sun newspaper is considered the reason why the conservative party won 4 elections on the spin in the UK by most serious analysts.
jamieboy wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Vexcalibur wrote:
You mean like Rupert Murdoch?
Murdoch is not responsible for collapsing currencies of countries.
No but he does have a major say in the electoral process of democratic states. His Sun newspaper is considered the reason why the conservative party won 4 elections on the spin in the UK by most serious analysts.
Makes one wonder how bad the other newspapers are (from a credibility standpoint) in the UK if his paper has that much influence.
Just read something that shows Media Matters may not have thought things through when they issued the declaration.
To that end, Brock told Politico that MM will “focus on [News Corp. CEO Rupert] Murdoch and trying to disrupt his commercial interests ..." Murdoch is the founder of Fox News and a media titan with newspaper, broadcast, Internet and other media countries around the world.
There is nothing in the Politico article to suggest that Brock, who was paid just under $300,000 in 2009, according to the group's most recently available tax return, plans to ask the IRS to change his organization's tax status as a 501(C)(3) tax-exempt educational foundation.
Being a C3 puts MM in the non-profit, non-commercial sector, and it also bars the organzation from participating in partisan political activity. This new, more aggressive stance, however, appears to run directly counter to the government's requirements for maintaining a C3 tax status.
Since Brock classifies Fox News as the "leader" of the Republican Party, by his own description he is involving his organization in a partisan battle. High-priced K Street lawyers can probably find a federal judge or a sympathetic IRS bureaucrat willing to either look the other way or accept some sort of MM rationale such as that it is merely providing educational information about a partisan group.
But in the IRS application for 501(C)(3) tax-exempt educational foundation status, Section VIII, Question I asks the applicant: "Do you support or oppose candidates in political campaigns in any way?" (Emphasis added).
Under Brock's definition of Fox News, it appears he is setting MM on a course of actively opposing all Republican candidates. Brandon Kiser at The Right Sphere blog argues that this new statement of MM's mission means it must change its tax status.
Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/bel ... z1Hve9cLr7
They can't have it both ways, you can't be a non-profit and engage in partisan attackfests. While leftist judges probably will let them get away with breaking the law (as would Obama's Attorney General), fact remains they'd still be committing a felony (tax fraud).
Inuyasha wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Vexcalibur wrote:
You mean like Rupert Murdoch?
Murdoch is not responsible for collapsing currencies of countries.
No but he does have a major say in the electoral process of democratic states. His Sun newspaper is considered the reason why the conservative party won 4 elections on the spin in the UK by most serious analysts.
Makes one wonder how bad the other newspapers are (from a credibility standpoint) in the UK if his paper has that much influence.
Just read something that shows Media Matters may not have thought things through when they issued the declaration.
To that end, Brock told Politico that MM will “focus on [News Corp. CEO Rupert] Murdoch and trying to disrupt his commercial interests ..." Murdoch is the founder of Fox News and a media titan with newspaper, broadcast, Internet and other media countries around the world.
There is nothing in the Politico article to suggest that Brock, who was paid just under $300,000 in 2009, according to the group's most recently available tax return, plans to ask the IRS to change his organization's tax status as a 501(C)(3) tax-exempt educational foundation.
Being a C3 puts MM in the non-profit, non-commercial sector, and it also bars the organzation from participating in partisan political activity. This new, more aggressive stance, however, appears to run directly counter to the government's requirements for maintaining a C3 tax status.
Since Brock classifies Fox News as the "leader" of the Republican Party, by his own description he is involving his organization in a partisan battle. High-priced K Street lawyers can probably find a federal judge or a sympathetic IRS bureaucrat willing to either look the other way or accept some sort of MM rationale such as that it is merely providing educational information about a partisan group.
But in the IRS application for 501(C)(3) tax-exempt educational foundation status, Section VIII, Question I asks the applicant: "Do you support or oppose candidates in political campaigns in any way?" (Emphasis added).
Under Brock's definition of Fox News, it appears he is setting MM on a course of actively opposing all Republican candidates. Brandon Kiser at The Right Sphere blog argues that this new statement of MM's mission means it must change its tax status.
Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/bel ... z1Hve9cLr7
They can't have it both ways, you can't be a non-profit and engage in partisan attackfests. While leftist judges probably will let them get away with breaking the law (as would Obama's Attorney General), fact remains they'd still be committing a felony (tax fraud).
This is what featured on page 3 of Britains most credible newspaper today:
*there were some boobs here at one point. Shame you missed them*
Last edited by jamieboy on 28 Mar 2011, 5:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.
jamieboy wrote:
This is what featured on page 3 of Britains most credible newspaper today:
As much as I appreciate it, you should remove that picture.
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skafather84 wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
This is what featured on page 3 of Britains most credible newspaper today:
As much as I appreciate it, you should remove that picture.
Okay...
Anyways, I think there has to be more to it than that, otherwise the only reason people would be buying it would be to look at topless women and not to read the articles...
Inuyasha wrote:
the only reason people would be buying it would be to look at topless women and not to read the articles...
Pretty much fits the News Corp modus operandi. Not literally with the topless women part but the effect of pushing material for people to gawk at slackjawed rather than to actually enlighten them.
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Wherever they burn books they will also, in the end, burn human beings. ~Heinrich Heine, Almansor, 1823
?I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me.? - Hunter S. Thompson
skafather84 wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
the only reason people would be buying it would be to look at topless women and not to read the articles...
Pretty much fits the News Corp modus operandi. Not literally with the topless women part but the effect of pushing material for people to gawk at slackjawed rather than to actually enlighten them.
That tends to not work, all you do is boost sales, it wouldn't have that much effect from a political standpoint.
Inuyasha wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
the only reason people would be buying it would be to look at topless women and not to read the articles...
Pretty much fits the News Corp modus operandi. Not literally with the topless women part but the effect of pushing material for people to gawk at slackjawed rather than to actually enlighten them.
That tends to not work, all you do is boost sales, it wouldn't have that much effect from a political standpoint.
Sorry, I had a bit of a brain fart before and lacked the actual work I wanted to use: sensationalism.
Sensationalism is what News Corp thrives on. It's why they hire the Op-Ed people they do for the TV shows and why those shows are so invested in selling gold.
As far as effectively politically, you essentially prime your audience to view the news in a biased way for when they do actually show the news and the audience only sees what they're primed to see from news reporting that is already very skewed.
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Wherever they burn books they will also, in the end, burn human beings. ~Heinrich Heine, Almansor, 1823
?I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me.? - Hunter S. Thompson
skafather84 wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
the only reason people would be buying it would be to look at topless women and not to read the articles...
Pretty much fits the News Corp modus operandi. Not literally with the topless women part but the effect of pushing material for people to gawk at slackjawed rather than to actually enlighten them.
That tends to not work, all you do is boost sales, it wouldn't have that much effect from a political standpoint.
Sorry, I had a bit of a brain fart before and lacked the actual work I wanted to use: sensationalism.
Sensationalism is what News Corp thrives on. It's why they hire the Op-Ed people they do for the TV shows and why those shows are so invested in selling gold.
As far as effectively politically, you essentially prime your audience to view the news in a biased way for when they do actually show the news and the audience only sees what they're primed to see from news reporting that is already very skewed.
Makes me wonder how bad the other media outlets in the UK are...
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