Does the government own your vagina?

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10 Apr 2011, 5:55 pm

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In short, no. Its funny how Conservatives always want to get the child out of the mother, but then don't care what happens after the child is born. They claim to be pro-life, but they would be the first to "pull the switch" or "push the plunger" on a murderer. My family has always told me that if I get someone pregnant, to suggest that she not have an abortion. I will do nothing of the sort. I will follow one motto that sums up my BASIC stance on abortion:

HER BODY, HER CHOICE.

I only agree with abortion by pill or early term, if you are going to wait until late in pregnancy, you should go ahead and give birth to the child. If you do not want it once its born, just try adoption.

Why do so many people think this is hypocritical? A murderer is given the death penalty for what he/she did and a baby hasn't done anything so it's given the right to live.

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10 Apr 2011, 5:57 pm

I would like to inform people that this is the FIRST PPR thread where I posted more than 4 times and did not get called a racist. I am very pleased with my performance so far.

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10 Apr 2011, 6:03 pm

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I would like to inform people that this is the FIRST PPR thread where I posted more than 4 times and did not get called a racist. I am very pleased with my performance so far.

People aren't gonna call you racist outta nowhere sssooooo... I dunno why you would expect it.

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10 Apr 2011, 6:05 pm

AceOfSpades wrote:

HerrGrimm wrote:

I would like to inform people that this is the FIRST PPR thread where I posted more than 4 times and did not get called a racist. I am very pleased with my performance so far.

People aren't gonna call you racist outta nowhere sssooooo... I dunno why you would expect it.

I don't think you understand what happened the previous 4 threads. This is a HUGE accomplishment no matter how it happens.

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10 Apr 2011, 6:06 pm

HerrGrimm wrote:

AceOfSpades wrote:

HerrGrimm wrote:

I would like to inform people that this is the FIRST PPR thread where I posted more than 4 times and did not get called a racist. I am very pleased with my performance so far.

People aren't gonna call you racist outta nowhere sssooooo... I dunno why you would expect it.

I don't think you understand what happened the previous 4 threads. This is a HUGE accomplishment no matter how it happens.

Do those 4 threads involve race in some way?

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10 Apr 2011, 6:08 pm

AceOfSpades wrote:

HerrGrimm wrote:

AceOfSpades wrote:

HerrGrimm wrote:

I would like to inform people that this is the FIRST PPR thread where I posted more than 4 times and did not get called a racist. I am very pleased with my performance so far.

People aren't gonna call you racist outta nowhere sssooooo... I dunno why you would expect it.

I don't think you understand what happened the previous 4 threads. This is a HUGE accomplishment no matter how it happens.

Do those 4 threads involve race in some way?[/quote

None of them actually did. They were other topics. If you want to talk further PM me.

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10 Apr 2011, 6:08 pm

Inuyasha wrote:

If we are people, then who owns the vagina is irrelevant, we're talking about killing another human being.

Sorry, but the ownership of my vagina is not irrelevant.

It is the sole property of me. As is my uterus.

If the ownership of my vagina was irrelevant, and if it belonged to "society at large", then does that mean any member of society could gain access to my vagina when they wanted to? Or maybe just people who are in positions of "authority"? So... a cop stops me for a traffic violation. He can't search my car, but he can give me a pap smear?

Oh, the ridiculousness of it all. :lol:

I say we make all men's prostates property of the state (it even has the word "state" in it... it's like it's meant to be).

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10 Apr 2011, 6:14 pm

HerrGrimm wrote:

AceOfSpades wrote:

HerrGrimm wrote:

AceOfSpades wrote:

HerrGrimm wrote:

I would like to inform people that this is the FIRST PPR thread where I posted more than 4 times and did not get called a racist. I am very pleased with my performance so far.

People aren't gonna call you racist outta nowhere sssooooo... I dunno why you would expect it.

I don't think you understand what happened the previous 4 threads. This is a HUGE accomplishment no matter how it happens.

Do those 4 threads involve race in some way?

None of them actually did. They were other topics. If you want to talk further PM me.

Nah I'm good I'm not interested in investigating lol.

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10 Apr 2011, 6:15 pm

AceOfSpades wrote:

HerrGrimm wrote:

AceOfSpades wrote:

HerrGrimm wrote:

AceOfSpades wrote:

HerrGrimm wrote:

I would like to inform people that this is the FIRST PPR thread where I posted more than 4 times and did not get called a racist. I am very pleased with my performance so far.

People aren't gonna call you racist outta nowhere sssooooo... I dunno why you would expect it.

I don't think you understand what happened the previous 4 threads. This is a HUGE accomplishment no matter how it happens.

Do those 4 threads involve race in some way?

None of them actually did. They were other topics. If you want to talk further PM me.

Nah I'm good I'm not interested in investigating lol.

I have a problem hijacking threads and I am trying to cut it down a bit. That's why I did it.

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10 Apr 2011, 6:30 pm

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I personnally find it amusing how on this forum, in this thread, it is mostly males discussing about female's rights.

Shouldn't the discussion be "mostly" be left to the ladies? I mean, it does concern THEM more than it concerns us. <.< We're not the ones having to go through pregnancy and emotionnal attachment (if there is any) to the lifeform they're carrying during that time.

I know eh. misogynism ftw?

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10 Apr 2011, 6:50 pm

this op-ed piece covers the subject better than I ever could
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10 Apr 2011, 7:09 pm

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The right-wing anti-choice movement loves to preach its views from an idealistic, pie-in-the-sky universe where nothing uncomfortable ever has to happen to anyone, but that's not reality. Life is filled with pain and hard choices. Choices one may or may not regret later. But it's that individual's right to make the choice.

Hahaha what a joke. Life is filled with pain and hard choices, that's why you either don't make choices that lead to that predicament or make the choice of either using protection properly or having your partner do it. There is nothing idealistic about taking on responsibility rather than conveniently bailing out of the results of your actions. It's actually idealistic to think you can do whatever you want as if the risk of biting off more than you can chew doesn't apply to you.

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10 Apr 2011, 7:09 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:

this op-ed piece covers the subject better than I ever could
Link

It reminds me of the time one of my coworkers, who used to live in Communist Ukraine, blew up when "women's rights" and "America" were uttered in the same sentence. She finds no equality in the system to say the least.

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10 Apr 2011, 7:30 pm

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make the choice of either using protection properly or having your partner do it.

Actually it is supposed to tell you on the box how effective the condom is. From what I remember it is only about 70%-80%; it really depends on what time of the cycle it is of course. And you're not considering if it breaks in your analysis. I feel it is more important for a condom to stop diseases than actually a pregnancy. They weren't giving them out in Africa for them to stop having children.

EDIT: It might have been one of the most ignorant things I have ever heard when an anti-abortion nut said eugenics was being practiced in Africa with the condoms. Right, they are supposed to get HIV to make sure you don't look down on them...

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10 Apr 2011, 7:34 pm

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The issue is that women, by nature of having uteruses, are forced to take on much more "responsibility" than men. You can argue with me that this is not the case, but you would be incorrect.

If the "responsibility" were equally split, perhaps you'd have a case. But it's not.

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10 Apr 2011, 7:38 pm

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AceOfSpades wrote:

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They are both the parents. Why is the responsibility not split equally?

HerrGrimm wrote:

AceOfSpades wrote:

make the choice of either using protection properly or having your partner do it.

Statistics account for the norm, they don't account for how well an individual puts it on. And I've heard statistics ranging from 70% to 98%. So what if 70% goes up to 98% after you put it on properly?

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