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13 Apr 2011, 9:50 am

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I have heard the term "Progressive" used in reference to people with social agendas, a term constantly sought amelioration for by those who seek to label themselves as such, but for them I would ask, "progression towards what goals?" Toward a future in space or rather progress toward some social "utopia"? I would rather have space than some ridiculous social agenda, but "progressives" seem to seek more of the "social progress" than progress towards the colonization of space and space-faring in general. Perhaps some want both, and I could see that, but the social agendas of many "progressives" seem to seek more progress towards eugenics programs and other crap we don't need than toward any useful technological progress.


Progressive is a polite word for socialist.

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13 Apr 2011, 11:41 am

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JakobVirgil wrote:
I can not for the life of me understand why liberal is such a bad word.
I can not see a single definition of the word that is negative.


The problem isn't with the word, it's with the people. Liberals even ruin the words used to describe them... :lol:


Sad but true, thing is liberals used to be called progressives until people knew what the "progressives" actually supported. Then to reinvent themselves they called themselves liberals, now people know what "liberals" actually stand for so they try to re-re-invent themselves. Problem for them is that people won't fall for it, because of individuals like Glenn Beck pointing it out.



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13 Apr 2011, 11:55 am

Inuyasha wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
I can not for the life of me understand why liberal is such a bad word.
I can not see a single definition of the word that is negative.


The problem isn't with the word, it's with the people. Liberals even ruin the words used to describe them... :lol:


Sad but true, thing is liberals used to be called progressives until people knew what the "progressives" actually supported. Then to reinvent themselves they called themselves liberals, now people know what "liberals" actually stand for so they try to re-re-invent themselves. Problem for them is that people won't fall for it, because of individuals like Glenn Beck pointing it out.
:roll:

No one needs Glenn Beck to tell em about yet another ridiculous result of their politically correct agenda. Everyone already knows about how much liberals are about that. I know for a fact you like the dude, but now you're giving him way too much credit.



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13 Apr 2011, 11:57 am

AceOfSpades wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
I can not for the life of me understand why liberal is such a bad word.
I can not see a single definition of the word that is negative.


The problem isn't with the word, it's with the people. Liberals even ruin the words used to describe them... :lol:


Sad but true, thing is liberals used to be called progressives until people knew what the "progressives" actually supported. Then to reinvent themselves they called themselves liberals, now people know what "liberals" actually stand for so they try to re-re-invent themselves. Problem for them is that people won't fall for it, because of individuals like Glenn Beck pointing it out.
:roll:

No one needs Glenn Beck to tell em about yet another ridiculous result of their politically correct agenda. Everyone already knows about how much liberals are about that. I know for a fact you like the dude, but now you're giving him way too much credit.


I know he isn't the first one to bring it up, but he managed to get the word out to people.



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13 Apr 2011, 12:01 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
AceOfSpades wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
I can not for the life of me understand why liberal is such a bad word.
I can not see a single definition of the word that is negative.


The problem isn't with the word, it's with the people. Liberals even ruin the words used to describe them... :lol:


Sad but true, thing is liberals used to be called progressives until people knew what the "progressives" actually supported. Then to reinvent themselves they called themselves liberals, now people know what "liberals" actually stand for so they try to re-re-invent themselves. Problem for them is that people won't fall for it, because of individuals like Glenn Beck pointing it out.
:roll:

No one needs Glenn Beck to tell em about yet another ridiculous result of their politically correct agenda. Everyone already knows about how much liberals are about that. I know for a fact you like the dude, but now you're giving him way too much credit.


I know he isn't the first one to bring it up, but he managed to get the word out to people.
Well it's obvious to anyone with even the most basic grasp on politics. Hell even people who aren't into politics notice everything these days has a euphemism since it is so culturally prevalent. I don't really think anyone needs a talking head to know we have liberals to thank for this.



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13 Apr 2011, 1:54 pm

AceOfSpades wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
AceOfSpades wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
I can not for the life of me understand why liberal is such a bad word.
I can not see a single definition of the word that is negative.


The problem isn't with the word, it's with the people. Liberals even ruin the words used to describe them... :lol:


Sad but true, thing is liberals used to be called progressives until people knew what the "progressives" actually supported. Then to reinvent themselves they called themselves liberals, now people know what "liberals" actually stand for so they try to re-re-invent themselves. Problem for them is that people won't fall for it, because of individuals like Glenn Beck pointing it out.
:roll:

No one needs Glenn Beck to tell em about yet another ridiculous result of their politically correct agenda. Everyone already knows about how much liberals are about that. I know for a fact you like the dude, but now you're giving him way too much credit.


Would it have come out as much though if Fox News didn't exist? Probably not, which is why Fox News is so hated by the left.

I know he isn't the first one to bring it up, but he managed to get the word out to people.
Well it's obvious to anyone with even the most basic grasp on politics. Hell even people who aren't into politics notice everything these days has a euphemism since it is so culturally prevalent. I don't really think anyone needs a talking head to know we have liberals to thank for this.



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18 Apr 2011, 1:01 pm

Telekon wrote:
There is no such thing as a right-wing monetary policy (at least not if economics is treated a science).


Funny, most economics textbooks I see classify "policy advice" as the prescriptive (i.e. less scientific) part of economics, rather than the positive (scientific) part. And applied ecology probably has a firmer professional consensus and consistency of predictions than monetary economics.

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I said nothing about monetary policy anyway; if it were up to me, banks would set their own reserve ratios.


You yammered about unemployment. The obscenely high rate at which NAIRU is calculated is one reason why there is structural unemployment.

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America's cultural core is Anglo-Saxon. The laws, language, and customs are (for the most part) British in origin. America was never culturally informed by the aboriginal population since they had no common culture. They weren't even legal citizens until 1924.


Oh, really?

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As the demographics change the country will drift away from its British origins. Mexicans don't care about Constitutional law, the War of Independence or the 4th of July. They are cultural interlopers.


Well, it's nice to see that you're a simple minded bigot. And, news flash, Mexico is based on a republican constitutional framework.


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