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Giuliani, GOP Nominee, 2012
Possible. 29%  29%  [ 2 ]
No way. 71%  71%  [ 5 ]
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09 Jun 2011, 12:14 pm

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I find it outrageously, knee-slappingly hilarious that Republicans keep putting forward candidates whose "knowledge has major gaps" while claiming "oh, but that doesn't mean they're unintelligent. They're really smart, honest!"

I'm not saying Bachmann is "really smart". I'm only saying she's about as smart as Obama.

saying the someone is as smart as bachmann is libel and you know it. :lol:
I don't think the Obama is stupid meme is a very effective one.
I kinda rings hollow.

There's a fairly broad range in between "really smart" and "stupid".



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09 Jun 2011, 12:20 pm

psychohist wrote:
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psychohist wrote:
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I find it outrageously, knee-slappingly hilarious that Republicans keep putting forward candidates whose "knowledge has major gaps" while claiming "oh, but that doesn't mean they're unintelligent. They're really smart, honest!"

I'm not saying Bachmann is "really smart". I'm only saying she's about as smart as Obama.

saying the someone is as smart as bachmann is libel and you know it. :lol:
I don't think the Obama is stupid meme is a very effective one.
I kinda rings hollow.

There's a fairly broad range in between "really smart" and "stupid".


Word of advice, just stand up to him, don't try to appease him.



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09 Jun 2011, 12:24 pm

psychohist wrote:
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psychohist wrote:
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I find it outrageously, knee-slappingly hilarious that Republicans keep putting forward candidates whose "knowledge has major gaps" while claiming "oh, but that doesn't mean they're unintelligent. They're really smart, honest!"

I'm not saying Bachmann is "really smart". I'm only saying she's about as smart as Obama.

saying the someone is as smart as bachmann is libel and you know it. :lol:
I don't think the Obama is stupid meme is a very effective one.
I kinda rings hollow.

There's a fairly broad range in between "really smart" and "stupid".

Implying that Obama only managed to get through school because of affirmative action suggests the latter, though, as do Trump's claims that Obama "got really bad grades" at Columbia. You still have no evidence to suggest any intelligence on the part of Bachmann, while I can pull up numerous pieces of evidence that point to her being quite dull. Conversely, you have no evidence to suggest that Obama is unintelligent, and there is ample reason to believe he is rather bright.


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09 Jun 2011, 12:26 pm

Orwell wrote:
psychohist wrote:
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psychohist wrote:
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I find it outrageously, knee-slappingly hilarious that Republicans keep putting forward candidates whose "knowledge has major gaps" while claiming "oh, but that doesn't mean they're unintelligent. They're really smart, honest!"

I'm not saying Bachmann is "really smart". I'm only saying she's about as smart as Obama.

saying the someone is as smart as bachmann is libel and you know it. :lol:
I don't think the Obama is stupid meme is a very effective one.
I kinda rings hollow.

There's a fairly broad range in between "really smart" and "stupid".

Implying that Obama only managed to get through school because of affirmative action suggests the latter, though, as do Trump's claims that Obama "got really bad grades" at Columbia. You still have no evidence to suggest any intelligence on the part of Bachmann, while I can pull up numerous pieces of evidence that point to her being quite dull. Conversely, you have no evidence to suggest that Obama is unintelligent, and there is ample reason to believe he is rather bright.


How about the fact he can't do anything coherently without a teleprompter, whereas Sarah Palin can wing an entire speech with her notes being an older version, and the teleprompter having the wrong speech up.



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09 Jun 2011, 12:30 pm

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How about the fact he can't do anything coherently without a teleprompter,

Teleprompters aren't new; giving major speeches can be stressful; Obama can (and occasionally does) speak reasonably well without notes or a prompter.

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whereas Sarah Palin can wing an entire speech with her notes being an older version, and the teleprompter having the wrong speech up.

You've got to be kidding. Palin can't form a complete, grammatically coherent sentence even with a teleprompter.

All I have to say here is "Paul Revere." Palin's an idiot, and so are you. Hell, you probably participated in the Wikipedia vandalism to re-write history so she would be "right."


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09 Jun 2011, 12:33 pm

Orwell wrote:
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How about the fact he can't do anything coherently without a teleprompter,

Teleprompters aren't new; giving major speeches can be stressful; Obama can (and occasionally does) speak reasonably well without notes or a prompter.

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whereas Sarah Palin can wing an entire speech with her notes being an older version, and the teleprompter having the wrong speech up.

You've got to be kidding. Palin can't form a complete, grammatically coherent sentence even with a teleprompter.

All I have to say here is "Paul Revere." Palin's an idiot, and so are you. Hell, you probably participated in the Wikipedia vandalism to re-write history so she would be "right."


2008 Republican Convention Speech, she had a malfunctioning teleprompter giving the wrong speech and some handwritten notes that was an early version of the speech, she did the entire speech off the cuff.



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09 Jun 2011, 12:38 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
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How about the fact he can't do anything coherently without a teleprompter,

Teleprompters aren't new; giving major speeches can be stressful; Obama can (and occasionally does) speak reasonably well without notes or a prompter.

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whereas Sarah Palin can wing an entire speech with her notes being an older version, and the teleprompter having the wrong speech up.

You've got to be kidding. Palin can't form a complete, grammatically coherent sentence even with a teleprompter.

All I have to say here is "Paul Revere." Palin's an idiot, and so are you. Hell, you probably participated in the Wikipedia vandalism to re-write history so she would be "right."


2008 Republican Convention Speech, she had a malfunctioning teleprompter giving the wrong speech and some handwritten notes that was an early version of the speech, she did the entire speech off the cuff.

And it was quite obvious to anybody with even half a brain, that she had less than that.


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09 Jun 2011, 12:39 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
2008 Republican Convention Speech, she had a malfunctioning teleprompter giving the wrong speech and some handwritten notes that was an early version of the speech, she did the entire speech off the cuff.

Can you give a source for that? From the video, it looked to me like she was reading off the teleprompter the whole time.

I certainly agree it was a great speech, and her delivery was a big part of that. If she had a broader education and more knowledge, she'd be a killer candidate.



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09 Jun 2011, 12:42 pm

Paul Revere.


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09 Jun 2011, 12:48 pm

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There's a fairly broad range in between "really smart" and "stupid".

Implying that Obama only managed to get through school because of affirmative action suggests the latter

You must have an even lower opinion of Harvard Law School than I do.



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09 Jun 2011, 12:49 pm

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Paul Revere.


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09 Jun 2011, 1:19 pm

First, congratulations for not calling him Guiliani.

Second, I miss those funny names for him. Ghouliani, and the really politically incorrect one, Jewliani.

Third, he has no chance because his whole thing is about terrorism and Bin Laden and there's no more Bin Laden. He's also not enough of a Teabagging maniac.



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09 Jun 2011, 1:36 pm

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First, congratulations for not calling him Guiliani.

Second, I miss those funny names for him. Ghouliani, and the really politically incorrect one, Jewliani.

Third, he has no chance because his whole thing is about terrorism and Bin Laden and there's no more Bin Laden. He's also not enough of a Teabagging maniac.


I don't think Romney is enough of a Teabagging maniac either; Bin Laden is gone, but the threat remains ever present per this recently released information from the Belfercenter for International Studies at Harvard:

http://belfercenter.ksg.harvard.edu/files/Joint-Threat-Assessment%20ENG%2027%20May%202011.pdf

However, Obama gets the credit for Osama. While Giuliani might talk it up in the primaries, it will be hard for him to present Obama as a weak force against Terrorism.

At this point, I doubt he has a chance.



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09 Jun 2011, 1:36 pm

Bachmann is a moron. She's a creationist who continually misrepresents basic facts.

Here is one of her favorite "historians" explaining that the founding fathers didn't want evolution taught and that Thomas Paine thought that "we must teach Creation Science".

So ~100 years before there was a TOE or Creation Science, their psychic powers had already forseen the issue. Not only that, the anti-biblical Thomas Paine wanted bible magic taught as science. Who knew? WIth right wing lunatics, you learn something new every single day.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article ... reationism



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09 Jun 2011, 2:02 pm

psychohist wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
psychohist wrote:
dionysian wrote:
I find it outrageously, knee-slappingly hilarious that Republicans keep putting forward candidates whose "knowledge has major gaps" while claiming "oh, but that doesn't mean they're unintelligent. They're really smart, honest!"

I'm not saying Bachmann is "really smart". I'm only saying she's about as smart as Obama.

saying the someone is as smart as bachmann is libel and you know it. :lol:
I don't think the Obama is stupid meme is a very effective one.
I kinda rings hollow.

There's a fairly broad range in between "really smart" and "stupid".


Yeah don't appease me that would be like appeasing Hitler. :lol:
I think the most powerful thing you can say about Obama is
Obama is that he seems like a nice guy he will make a really great ex-president you know like Carter.
it is closer to the truth and devastates, democrats they have nothing to come back with.


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09 Jun 2011, 2:11 pm

Obama has been far more effective in his first term than Clinton was in his first term. At the same time that he's had to deal with far more serious issues. I think he gets full credit for that, whatever you may think of the actions themselves.

So if it's a comparison game, Democrats need to go back a ways.