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21 Jun 2011, 3:41 pm

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Maybe he should ask George to go.


He's not going to ask a Nazi Collaborator to join his rally.


Are you formally charging George Soros with the crime of Nazi Collaboration?


The man has admitted to it, while you can argue it was protecting his family, my chief problem is he has said he doesn't feel guilty over it.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ2U6Rl98PM[/youtube]


I would be happy and exhilarated, too, if I was facing danger, but avoided being killed. What's wrong with that? And c'mon, he was just a teenager at the time, so I hardly think he could be painted with the same brush as actual collaborator scum.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


To not feel any guilt decades later, that's just scary.

@ pandabear

You would have to recuse yourself due to a conflict of interest.


Why? As I understand it, he never was personally involved in sending anyone to concentration camps. Otherwise, he might have been complicit in crimes against property, had he been an adult at the time. Maybe he just has enough sense to realize he only did what had to be done in order survive, which never resulted directly in anyone's death.

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You can still feel guilty about it Kraichgauer, most other rational individuals would feel guilty, if he had said he made it his mission to bring down oppressive regimes, then I wouldn't have a problem (aside from some of the targets of his).



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21 Jun 2011, 4:08 pm

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You jackanapes he did make it his mission to bring down repressive regimes.
He is a bigger player in the color revolutions the you idol Reagan.


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21 Jun 2011, 4:29 pm

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You jackanapes he did make it his mission to bring down repressive regimes.
He is a bigger player in the color revolutions the you idol Reagan.


How are the UK and US repressive regimes?



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21 Jun 2011, 5:36 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You jackanapes he did make it his mission to bring down repressive regimes.
He is a bigger player in the color revolutions the you idol Reagan.


How are the UK and US repressive regimes?


I think you know that was a reference to Soros' involvement in bringing down the communist regime of Hungary and (was it?) Czechoslovakia.
And as I recall, Beck found fault with him in this venture against totalitarianism.

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21 Jun 2011, 6:28 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You jackanapes he did make it his mission to bring down repressive regimes.
He is a bigger player in the color revolutions the you idol Reagan.


How are the UK and US repressive regimes?


I think you know that was a reference to Soros' involvement in bringing down the communist regime of Hungary and (was it?) Czechoslovakia.


Actually, he doesn't. :roll:



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21 Jun 2011, 11:18 pm

pandabear wrote:
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You jackanapes he did make it his mission to bring down repressive regimes.
He is a bigger player in the color revolutions the you idol Reagan.


How are the UK and US repressive regimes?


I think you know that was a reference to Soros' involvement in bringing down the communist regime of Hungary and (was it?) Czechoslovakia.


Actually, he doesn't. :roll:


How is wrecking the British currency helping to bring down the communist regime in Hungry or Czechoslovakia? If he was just leaving a trail of wrecking Communist regimes and dictatorships Glenn would be hailing him a hero and asking how he could help. Problem is he's targetted the United Kingdom and has been targetting the US for decades, and that's what Glenn Beck has a problem with.



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21 Jun 2011, 11:59 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
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Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You jackanapes he did make it his mission to bring down repressive regimes.
He is a bigger player in the color revolutions the you idol Reagan.


How are the UK and US repressive regimes?


I think you know that was a reference to Soros' involvement in bringing down the communist regime of Hungary and (was it?) Czechoslovakia.


Actually, he doesn't. :roll:


How is wrecking the British currency helping to bring down the communist regime in Hungry or Czechoslovakia? If he was just leaving a trail of wrecking Communist regimes and dictatorships Glenn would be hailing him a hero and asking how he could help. Problem is he's targetted the United Kingdom and has been targetting the US for decades, and that's what Glenn Beck has a problem with.


no because Glenn is an Antisemitic moron
I will just quote the whole section from wikipedia I have noticed that you use it as a source.
if you look it up you can check the sources.
outside of the Judenhass-o-sphere it is what he is famous for.
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According to Neil Clark in the New Statesman, Soros's role was crucial in the collapse of communism in Eastern Europe.[55] From 1979, as an advocate of 'open societies', Soros financially supported dissidents including Poland's Solidarity movement, Charter 77 in Czechoslovakia and Andrei Sakharov in the Soviet Union[44] donating $3 million a year according to Clark.[55] In 1984, he founded his first Open Society Institute in Hungary and pumped millions of dollars into opposition movements and independent media. Since the fall of the Soviet Union, Soros' funding has continued to play an important role in the former Soviet sphere. His funding of pro-democratic programs in of Georgia was considered by Russian and Western observers to be crucial to the success of the Rose Revolution, although Soros has said that his role has been "greatly exaggerated."[56] Alexander Lomaia, Secretary of the Georgian Security Council and former Minister of Education and Science, is a former Executive Director of the Open Society Georgia Foundation (Soros Foundation), overseeing a staff of 50 and a budget of $2,500,000.[57]
Former Georgian Foreign Minister Salomé Zourabichvili wrote that institutions like the Soros Foundation were the cradle of democratisation and that all the NGOs which gravitated around the Soros Foundation undeniably carried the revolution. She opines that after the revolution the Soros Foundation and the NGOs were integrated into power.[58]
Some Soros-backed pro-democracy initiatives have been banned in Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan.[59] Ercis Kurtulus, head of the Social Transparency Movement Association (TSHD) in Turkey, said in an interview that "Soros carried out his will in Ukraine and Georgia by using these NGOs...Last year Russia passed a special law prohibiting NGOs from taking money from foreigners. I think this should be banned in Turkey as well."[60] In 1997, Soros had to close his foundation in Belarus after it was fined $3 million by the government for "tax and currency violations". According to The New York Times, the Belarussian president Alexander Lukashenko has been widely criticized in the West and in Russia for his efforts to control the Belarus Soros Foundation and other independent NGOs and to suppress civil and human rights. Soros called the fines part of a campaign to "destroy independent society".[61]
In June 2009, Soros donated $100m to Central Europe and Eastern Europe to counter the impact of the economic crisis on the poor, voluntary groups and non-government organisations.[62]


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22 Jun 2011, 12:07 am

I wasn't aware that Britain = Soviet Russia...

Probably because it isn't, the fact he made some communist governments blow a gasket isn't what I would have a problem with, nor would Glenn Beck. If Soros was focusing on making Chavez's life a living hell, I'm sure Beck would be one of the first asking where he could sign up. Problem is that Soros seems to be trying to cause the US dollar to implode (he was pushing for the Quantitative Easing), and that is what I have a problem with.



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22 Jun 2011, 8:22 am

Inuyasha wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You jackanapes he did make it his mission to bring down repressive regimes.
He is a bigger player in the color revolutions the you idol Reagan.


How are the UK and US repressive regimes?


I think you know that was a reference to Soros' involvement in bringing down the communist regime of Hungary and (was it?) Czechoslovakia.


Actually, he doesn't. :roll:


How is wrecking the British currency helping to bring down the communist regime in Hungry or Czechoslovakia? If he was just leaving a trail of wrecking Communist regimes and dictatorships Glenn would be hailing him a hero and asking how he could help. Problem is he's targetted the United Kingdom and has been targetting the US for decades, and that's what Glenn Beck has a problem with.

See what I mean? :roll:



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22 Jun 2011, 1:28 pm

Beside, wouldn't Soros want the American economy roaring away in order to get Obama reelected? I think George Soros has been made into the right's bogeyman.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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22 Jun 2011, 1:42 pm

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Beside, wouldn't Soros want the American economy roaring away in order to get Obama reelected? I think George Soros has been made into the right's bogeyman.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


30 points for Bill


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22 Jun 2011, 1:48 pm

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Beside, wouldn't Soros want the American economy roaring away in order to get Obama reelected? I think George Soros has been made into the right's bogeyman.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


30 points for Bill


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22 Jun 2011, 4:04 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN_HKON7asM&feature=related[/youtube]



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22 Jun 2011, 4:32 pm

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN_HKON7asM&feature=related[/youtube]


In "actual" Christian theology, Jesus died for the corrupt, sinful nature of all people. So in other words, it wasn't just the Jews or even Romans that killed Jesus - he died essentially because of everyone. So no, Jesus isn't going to be pissed off at the Jews.

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22 Jun 2011, 5:32 pm

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/arc ... lem/69682/

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JAN 18 2011, 7:10 AM ET
It's become clear to me that the Fox commentator Glenn Beck has something of a Jewish problem. Actually, he has something of a modernity problem, and people with modernity problems tend to have problems with Jews, who more or less invented modernity (Einstein, Marx, Freud, Franz Boas, etc.)

This is not, by the way, a post about Beck's singular obsession with George Soros (read Michelle Goldberg -- not a relative, except in an all-Jews-are-conspiring-against-Glenn-Beck sort of way -- on this subject). This is a post about Beck's recent naming of nine people -- eight of them Jews -- as enemies of America and humanity. He calls these people prime contributors to the -- wait for it -- "era of the big lie." The eight Jews are Sigmund Freud; Edward Bernays, the founder of public relations, and a nephew of Freud's (which Beck discloses as if this had previously been a secret); Soros, of course; Cass Sunstein, now of the White House; the former labor leader Andy Stern; Walter Lippman, who is no longer here to defend himself; Frances Fox Piven, who Beck believes is "sowing the seeds" of revolution; and, of all people, Edward Rendell.

It is fair to ask if Beck knows that these people are Jewish (It is not widely-known that Rendell is Jewish, I think). But Beck is a smart person, and has researchers at hand with access to Wikipedia. Further, most of these people on Beck's "big lie" list are already the targets of straightforward attacks in the dark, anti-Semitic corners of the Web, so an extended Google search, in some cases, would show that much of the opposition to some of these people is motivated by anti-Semitism. That said, Beck has not crossed a certain line, by identifying his targets openly as Jewish. Nevertheless, this, to me, is a classic case of anti-Semitic dog-whistling. Beck is speaking to a certain constituency, and the thought has now crossed my mind that this constituency understands the clear implications of what Beck is saying.

My modest suggestion to those Jews who fear the building of mosques in American cities is that they look elsewhere for threats that seem to be gathering against them.



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23 Jun 2011, 12:08 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
pandabear wrote:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN_HKON7asM&feature=related[/youtube]


In "actual" Christian theology, Jesus died for the corrupt, sinful nature of all people. So in other words, it wasn't just the Jews or even Romans that killed Jesus - he died essentially because of everyone. So no, Jesus isn't going to be pissed off at the Jews.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I'd like to see the whole show, remember the supposed Glenn Beck advocating violent clips, that turned out to be totally out of context...