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29 Jun 2011, 1:11 am

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One of the most outstanding acceptances of G.W.Bush was that he really was a jolly fellow and great to join with in a beer. Was this what got him elected? Nothing about his viciously illegal and destructive policies, merely that he was a great drinking companion. If this is the way Americans choose their leaders, the emotional and perhaps sexual appeal of Palin and Bachmann may compare favorably against the rather elite and aristocratic personality of Obama. Of course that method of choosing leaders is the road to disaster but it seems to be that chosen pathway for the voters. And, as these last years have indicated, Obama is no bargain.


God help us, that very well may be true. That people in this country would support a candidate for folksiness, and an anti-intellectual one of us vibe, makes me fear for my country.

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29 Jun 2011, 7:27 pm

It turns out that not only does Mrs. Bachmann want to scrap Medicaid, but her husband has made a fortune off of Medicaid

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43570552/ns ... sion_2012/

Her husband is a "clinical therapist", the services of which Republicans regard as quackery, and wouldn't want public funds supporting.



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29 Jun 2011, 7:37 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Sand wrote:
One of the most outstanding acceptances of G.W.Bush was that he really was a jolly fellow and great to join with in a beer. Was this what got him elected? Nothing about his viciously illegal and destructive policies, merely that he was a great drinking companion. If this is the way Americans choose their leaders, the emotional and perhaps sexual appeal of Palin and Bachmann may compare favorably against the rather elite and aristocratic personality of Obama. Of course that method of choosing leaders is the road to disaster but it seems to be that chosen pathway for the voters. And, as these last years have indicated, Obama is no bargain.


God help us, that very well may be true. That people in this country would support a candidate for folksiness, and an anti-intellectual one of us vibe, makes me fear for my country.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


JFK got helped out a lot by televising the Presidential debates and such. Andrew Jackson got elected and did not even have a grade-school education because he DESTROYED the British in New Orleans. The funny part was, they put him there because the government did not want him anywhere near the battlefront. Different times though: today you cannot marry an already-married woman and get away with it.

It went something like this during the campaign:

John Quincy Adams: You married an already-married woman, killed a man in a duel, and annexed the state of Florida without explicit government permission.

Jackson: Oh yeah, well, YOU'RE A PIMP! You gave women to the Czar of Russia during your ambassadorship!

JQA: What? You're kidding right?

Public: We like Jackson more, so we will believe him instead of you.

So Jackson won (inaugurated with 2 bullets in his body), proceeded to kill and displace all the Native Americans, and set up the Supreme Court for the Dred Scott Decision. He even tried to get paper money abolished, so I think some guy put him on the 20 dollar bill for humor. We have nukes now, so I think we should not let history repeat itself by electing such people in that way to the Presidency. He was enough of an a******e to stop Nullification, so there might be some silver lining, but not much.


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29 Jun 2011, 10:40 pm

Sand wrote:
One of the most outstanding acceptances of G.W.Bush was that he really was a jolly fellow and great to join with in a beer. Was this what got him elected? Nothing about his viciously illegal and destructive policies, merely that he was a great drinking companion. If this is the way Americans choose their leaders, the emotional and perhaps sexual appeal of Palin and Bachmann may compare favorably against the rather elite and aristocratic personality of Obama. Of course that method of choosing leaders is the road to disaster but it seems to be that chosen pathway for the voters. And, as these last years have indicated, Obama is no bargain.


Kinda ironic, given that as a nondrinker, George W. Bush couldn't have a bear with you!

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/laura-bu ... d=10552148


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29 Jun 2011, 11:42 pm

Master_Pedant wrote:
Sand wrote:
One of the most outstanding acceptances of G.W.Bush was that he really was a jolly fellow and great to join with in a beer. Was this what got him elected? Nothing about his viciously illegal and destructive policies, merely that he was a great drinking companion. If this is the way Americans choose their leaders, the emotional and perhaps sexual appeal of Palin and Bachmann may compare favorably against the rather elite and aristocratic personality of Obama. Of course that method of choosing leaders is the road to disaster but it seems to be that chosen pathway for the voters. And, as these last years have indicated, Obama is no bargain.


Kinda ironic, given that as a nondrinker, George W. Bush couldn't have a bear with you!

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/laura-bu ... d=10552148


You know, that never occurred to me.
And being that Palin is a born again Christian, she isn't supposed to be drinking, either. I suppose the only way you're going to drink with a president is to get invited to an Obama beer summit. 8)

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29 Jun 2011, 11:56 pm

Master_Pedant wrote:
Sand wrote:
One of the most outstanding acceptances of G.W.Bush was that he really was a jolly fellow and great to join with in a beer. Was this what got him elected? Nothing about his viciously illegal and destructive policies, merely that he was a great drinking companion. If this is the way Americans choose their leaders, the emotional and perhaps sexual appeal of Palin and Bachmann may compare favorably against the rather elite and aristocratic personality of Obama. Of course that method of choosing leaders is the road to disaster but it seems to be that chosen pathway for the voters. And, as these last years have indicated, Obama is no bargain.


Kinda ironic, given that as a nondrinker, George W. Bush couldn't have a bear with you!

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/laura-bu ... d=10552148


It was common to propose a drink with Bush at the time of his election and it only became obvious how completely unbearable he was after he gained the presidency.



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30 Jun 2011, 5:38 pm

aghogday wrote:
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Recall reading yesterday that John Wayne's parents at one time lived in Waterloo, then moved away.

"Bachmann’s John Wayne Flub Won’t Harm Her Quest to Live in the White House"

http://dougpowers.com/2011/06/27/bachmanns-john-wayne/


Are you familiar with the term retcon? it was just an error no biggie we don't have to warp reality to make her right.


It's a small world. I noticed from the link that John Wayne Gacy worked for the Democratic Campaign during the Carter years and had his picture taken with Rosalynd Carter. Bachmann also worked for the Democratic Campaign during the Carter years, before she changed over to the Republican Party.


did they meet? 8O


I had a feeling she was a cheerleader in highschool, and while finding that information yesterday, I also found out she worked on the Carter campaign. I don't imagine they worked in the same locations but I am equally surprised to find out that either of these individuals worked for the Carter Campaign.

She's a different kind of social animal than Palin. Highschool basketball player vs. Cheerleader. Palin's got an aggressive instinct and Bachmann is still a cheerleader at heart, ruled by the spirit of the moment at times.

If nothing else, this proves our country is becoming a more of an egalitarian one. I would have never imagined a high school cheerleader having the opportunity to run for president, when I was young, male or female. Athletes often become politicians; Palin has that aggressive streak.

Just a pop culture thought. But, I wonder if the popularity of Palin, Bachmann, and Trump relate to the attention deficit of modern culture. None of this stuff would have been believable enough to be portrayed on a TV show when I was young.

Romney won't grab any attention, except for the fact that he looks/acts like a President/Funeral Director, but in just a week with the flake comment and John Wayne comment, many are going to know that Bachmann is running for President. And, the people that support her ideology are by in large the same people that supported Bush; they are not going to care if she misspeaks.

The strong quality I saw in Bush, was invincibility to criticism; dodging shoes and smiling to the end. I think Bachmann shares that quality, and it likely resonates higher among her constituents than the mistakes she makes. Palin has the Bush swagger, but she doesn't deal well with criticism. Neither does Obama.

I see a possibility of a Romney/Bachmann ticket. Keeping the charisma, backpacking the Tea Party radical ideas, and the ground breaking possibility of a female Vice President.


A Romney/Bachmann ticket? Say bye bye to the notion of a President Romney.

That's what may have cost John McCain the Presidency in 2008.

Maybe America still isn't ready for a female VP and/or a Mormon President.

Bachmann is just the Republican version of Dennis Kucinich, IMOO.


I see this as a potential reality; the Republicans don't have any good choices at this point. But, they have internal divisions they must deal with and are probably going to come up with some kind of compromise to keep their own party together.



Many of us won't care if Bachmann is nominated for the GOP ticket next summer. Bachmann may be seen by many, once things start to heat up, as just another Sarah Palin. If the GOP wants to win back the White House next year, they need to put their heads together, get over their differences, and pick the right person who can keep the GOP together.

John Boener, anyone? :lol:


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30 Jun 2011, 6:01 pm

The Republicans really should just get over imagining themselves to be relevant. :roll: