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There are some people who want the State to take perfectly healthy if slightly chubby kids away from their loving, caring parents and taken into care, because having a fat child is "abuse". Social Services will turn up, throw the child into the care system where these unfortunate children really will learn the meaning of child abuse.

blauSamstag wrote:

For heaven’s sake don’t stop there! Make ‘em build airtight vaults in their homes with an airlock. The toxic discharge will have filters that will separate the oh so horrendously toxic nicotine and tar from the exhaust for hazardous waste disposal.
The newly formed Ministry of Smoke Police will do random monthly inspections of the smoking chambers with a mass spectrometer to make sure there is no leakage.

Fnord wrote:


Yes, I’m sure a wisp of smoke diluted by air drifting into a non-smoking area would be devastating.

Vexcalibur wrote:


They complained about the odor on smoker’s clothing AFTER they had run them out of the building into area away from common entry points.

The “Well, we’ve pushed them this far so let’s take it to the next level” approach.

Danish social liberal party, the literal translation is "the radical left" radikale venstre, they have had prime ministers and everything

(the above is a link)

though to understand the party one has to remember that danish politics is tightly bunched on most issues with only a few truly deviating party's
many of our political parties with "left/venstre" in the name are actually right oriented on the danish political spectrum, mainly due to history.

the link below gives a quick reference to why and how this change occurred.

linkage

So it seems that, er, Danish politics isn't that liberal at all then.

we do have some actual liberal parties but as usual the naming and history is hard to convey without actually looking everything up.

now we are more socialist in the way that our social services are usually highly respected, or at least acknowledged as a working solution (with plenty of room for improvement)

though the odd thing is that some of the more socialist parties are actually more supportive of personal liberty

our socialistic peoples party is on the forefront for personal liberty while still pushing heavily for social services and research, their market stance i am not that familiar with as that part almost always eluded me.

Who are the Liberal Alliance? They sound interesting.

That does sound like a good plan. However, why bother with the toxic discharge filters? As long as they're in an airtight vault, if they want to poison themselves, then let them poison themselves. You do need some sort of an air-tight double or triple door system, to minimize escape of harmful fumes as smokers entered and exited the vault.


Amen!


They are quite stinky. Maybe they should just stay in the vaults.


Yes!

non-smoking liberals are some seriously tense fascists as*holes. you should smoke a nice pipe of some latakia and chill out.
and please stop using BS science and lies.

some quick simple facts.
pipe smokers outlive non-smokers.
as the number of tobacco smokers has decreased over the years, lung cancer has increased.
tobacco has never been proven to cause lung cancer, emphysema, or birth defects. it is all conjecture and assumption.
japan has the largest percentage of tobacco smokers and the lowest percentage of lung cancer.
facts. go look 'em up.

even the doctors responsible for your second hand nonsense have admitted publicly that their research was flawed and falsified. the admit to their own piss poor science. they did exactly what was done with the vaccines and autism.

go experience some life instead of doing what you are told is good to do.

Not me.


No need for them.


And you claimed to be against BS science and lies.


So? At least there is less stench.




So? Move to Japan, then. You'll fit right in.


So? At least we don't have to put up with your filthy stench any more.


And, life is much better, now that public smoking has been reduced.

You'll never eradicate smoking. The more extreme the anti-smoking rhetoric gets, the more people within the general population will start thinking again and the more likely that a separate subculture will develop.

Now go and read a book on Prohibition.

Second-hand smoking is annoying and dangerous. Really though, wouldn't you love to stick their cigarretes in their asses for smoking in front of you, when that happens? Bans related to second-hand smoking are reasonable.

Last edited by blunnet on 19 Jul 2011, 7:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.

No, it doesn't, dear. The majority of studies show that there is not much harm to second hand smoke, a few say that there is, but most are kind-of neutral.

The science has not been proven.

I grew up on 2nd hand smoke. The old man had no regard for our having to breath it at home or in the car and he smoked A LOT. I started smoking when I was 14 but never got addicted to it. Instead I got addicted to nicotine by dipping snuff and eventually I quit that although I about died from withdrawal.
Even though I no longer use tobacco as a habit, once in a while I’ll still get a pack of Marlborough’s and smoke a few of them just because.
I’ve been exposed to a hell of a lot worse inhalants than tobacco smoke, too.
Amazingly, though, my lungs are in great shape.
That’s why I call BS to those hand wringers that whine about how they’ve been “exposed” when they had to walk past someone smoking on the sidewalk coming in to work. Or about someone passing through cubicle land with such a faint odor of tobacco smoke on their clothes that my dog would hardly notice.

afaik second hand smoke only affects you from prolonged exposure in a room with poor ventilation. Like if you were working as a waitress or waiter in a restaurant 8 hours a day back then when they could smoke indoors. But jesus christ people have to freak out over a little whiff of it. I doubt they're really that scared of getting cancer, I think they're just self-righteous control freaks. Every once in a while when I'm having a smoke some douchebag always has to start having a coughing fit even when I'm freaking 15m away from him and far from the entrance too so it's not like he even has to walk by me.

even many barmen in brittain went out publicly and said they had been breathing second hand smoke for decades with no discernible ill effects.

there might be some that have them but for most people and in most situations it is absolute bullocks and should be left to the owner of the property, peo[ple dont like the place, dont go there.

public spaces i can understand as people do not have a choice in many countries when they go there (out of neccesity), the amount of time spent there is alsso usually short unless working there, smoking booths have been proven to work.

AceOfSpades wrote:

That's exactly what it is!