Whitehouse pressures AF general to falsify testimony.....

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How on earth do you make that leap of logic?! Read my words again:



You are making nothing short of a perversion of my statements. My argument has never been about the merits of the system--it has been about your twisting the story to allow you to make defamatory statements for a political purpose.



I am reasonably certain that the words, "essentially completely insane," never passed the General's lips during his testimony. Every time you resort to hyperbole, you make a mockery of yourself. It's like the old legal adage: "When you have the law, hammer the law. When you have the facts, hammer the facts. When you have neither, hammer the table."

I have pointed out on more than one occasion how the General could have accommodated the White House's instructions without any diminution of his position.



Read again. They were not telling the General to take a stance on the system--they were telling the General to take a stance on the broader White House policy. They were not telling the General to say that they would resolve problems within 90 days, they were telling him to say that they were going to keep trying to resolve the problems.

I would be much more likely to agree with your outrage if your outrage was based on an accurate recitation of the facts--but you're busy banging the table.



Well that's a new allegation. Where did the White House ever tell the General to lie about the results?

The White House's "stance" is that they want more broadband for commercial use. The test results don't contradict that.

What the test results do demonstrate is that this product would accomplish that goal with unacceptable consequences. So to achieve that goal either a new product has to be found, or mitigation of those consequences has to be found. (And therein lies the true fault in what the White House is doing, but you've backed the wrong horse by going for the sexy story).



Again, you are misrepresenting the facts. They did not tell him to say that the matter could be resolved in 90 days.



And now you're banging on the table again.

We've been 'round this tree before: If the statement that is sought to be procured is not false, then procuring that statment is not subornation of perjury. Period.

"Aviation receivers operating as far as 7.5 miles from LightSquared transmitters completely lost GPS and were degraded out to distances of more than 16.5 miles," Shelton said. "High precision GPS receivers such as those used for surveying and geological study requiring precise measurements were adversely affected out to 213 miles and totally lost GPS out to 4.8 miles."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/09/ ... z1Yo7sq5We

These transmitters would be placed throughout the United States as part of a WIFI Broadband network grid. So my statement that it would effectively jam all GPS in the United States is a valid statement.



The scandal goes far deeper than that, the fast tracking that is going on is a scandal all by itself.

visagrunt, for someone that claims they know so much about the law you really don't know much about it, telling someone to say something (including giving guidence about what to say and not say) when they are testifying under oath is subornation of purjury.

1. The White House shouldn't have even told the company what the General was going to testify to.
2. The White House should not have even contacted the General in regards to what he would say in his testimony.



It looked rather implied and if I had said the general had said that, I would have had it in quotation marks, in italics, or in a quote box.



The White House has no business telling someone what testimony to give in a situation where an individual is giving testimony under oath. The very fact they contacted the General at all is where the White House screwed up.



How do you propose changing the frequency that every GPS system in the country operates at in under 90 days? This is a valid question, cause the reality is you quite frankly can't do it. The LightSquared product needs to be changed, not the taxpayer's job.



The fact the test results show that GPS within a several mile radius of one of their transmitters is completely knocked out, and disrupted in an even larger radius.



Do you know how many people rely on GPS on a daily basis, and how people would be adversely affected? All GPS units would be about as useful as a paperweight due to this transmitter.



I really hate repeating myself, hopefully this time you actually read.

"Aviation receivers operating as far as 7.5 miles from LightSquared transmitters completely lost GPS and were degraded out to distances of more than 16.5 miles," Shelton said. "High precision GPS receivers such as those used for surveying and geological study requiring precise measurements were adversely affected out to 213 miles and totally lost GPS out to 4.8 miles."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/09/ ... z1Yo7sq5We

7.5 miles is about 12 kilometers and that is the radius of the circle where the transmitter is the center. That means aviation GPS is completely gone anywhere within 12 kilometers (7.5 miles) of the transmitter made by LightSquared.



First you were claiming the General should resign for disobeying orders or implying he should be courtmartialed, now you're claiming they never said some things, which is it visagrunt?



Sorry, but I don't have the head-banging issue.



You are not allowed to tell people what to say for testimony under oath, other than it being the truth.