Why I'm skeptical of global warming and why it is important

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Ardent_Eccentric
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03 Oct 2011, 5:16 am

I suppose we can atleast agree climate change happens. The evedance obviously backs that assertion. I my self live in an arid desert, and every time a construction crew digs a hole 2 feet or more in my neighborhood they end up finding large pieces of petrified wood that was obviously indigenous to a semi tropical environment...

Now what caused the climate change in the region of the world I live in back, many, many, years ago is unknown. We as humans have no documentation as to why past climate change happend. we only have the byproduct of past climate change.

I understand where the op is coming from and he or she is more or less correct. We cant be all that certain climate change would or would not occur with or without humman causation. what caused the huge climate change shifts thousands or even millions of years ago? We really have no clue, but we can be certain it wasn't co2 emitions from Human induced combustion, I.e: cars ,power plants e.t.c...

Millions Or even thousands of years ago, all it could have taken was natural combustion sources, like lightning induced forest fires, and volcanic eruptions to cause swings in climate change. There really wasn't any way to stop or control a forest fire from burning/ combustion, millions of sq miles many, many, many, years ago.

The real question isn't, are humans causing climate change. The real question is rather we can control climate change. The fact that humans are contributing is not the real issue. The real issue is control. There seems to be a naturalistic fallacy in our thought process. We as humans are an integral part of the eco system, just as birds, monkeys and all the other forms of life on earth. what byproduct that comes from humans, even though it may not seem like it, is really in a sense natural. Maybe methane from dinosaur farts caused mesozoic climate changes. who the hell knows...


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03 Oct 2011, 8:36 am

well there is some real isues with "controlling gloabl warming"
what will you do when the ocean currents change or stop?
that alone would destroy the civilization of humanity as we know it, plugning more than half of the earth into a GW induced ice age.

there are so many ways GW can buttfuck us completely over the next 50-100 years.


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04 Oct 2011, 7:03 am

Oodain wrote:
there are so many ways GW can f**** us completely over the next 50-100 years.

You are being too optimistic.

I would say 10 to 30 years.

Whenever you find in the news that the temperature predictions failed, it is because it the warming turned out to be more than expected.

Soon enough we shall begin getting into the situation in which there is not enough water for the western countries. Good luck with that.


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04 Oct 2011, 9:31 am

Global warming is nothing more than a scam to increase taxes.



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04 Oct 2011, 9:51 am

Spoken like a true self-proclaimed conservative that knows nothing about the topics he opines about. Inuyasha, watch your back, they may be trying to replace you!


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04 Oct 2011, 11:49 am

piroflip wrote:
Global warming is nothing more than a scam to increase taxes.


Really? How about all that ice melting off of Greenland?

The issue is not the warming era. The issue are the causes. Is human activity the main driver of the warming trend or is it more due to natural processes over which we have little or no control.

The world has been warming since the end of The Little Ice Age (circa 1750). The question is: why?

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04 Nov 2011, 4:04 am

Lets think about how all this BS started concerning 'global warming' It was started in 1988 by a twat called James Hansen.



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04 Nov 2011, 6:41 am

AND THUS IT IS ALL WRONG


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04 Nov 2011, 8:32 am

NorwichAspie wrote:
Lets think about how all this BS started concerning 'global warming' It was started in 1988 by a twat called James Hansen.

And now it is believed by less and less people as evidence becomes clearer and clearer with scientists once opposing it now changing their opinion around.



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04 Nov 2011, 11:29 am

global warming isnt really a question,
antropogenic globa warming is,

also one of the major dangers of global warming is an ice age, if you dont know why read up.


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