I suppose we can atleast agree climate change happens. The evedance obviously backs that assertion. I my self live in an arid desert, and every time a construction crew digs a hole 2 feet or more in my neighborhood they end up finding large pieces of petrified wood that was obviously indigenous to a semi tropical environment...
Now what caused the climate change in the region of the world I live in back, many, many, years ago is unknown. We as humans have no documentation as to why past climate change happend. we only have the byproduct of past climate change.
I understand where the op is coming from and he or she is more or less correct. We cant be all that certain climate change would or would not occur with or without humman causation. what caused the huge climate change shifts thousands or even millions of years ago? We really have no clue, but we can be certain it wasn't co2 emitions from Human induced combustion, I.e: cars ,power plants e.t.c...
Millions Or even thousands of years ago, all it could have taken was natural combustion sources, like lightning induced forest fires, and volcanic eruptions to cause swings in climate change. There really wasn't any way to stop or control a forest fire from burning/ combustion, millions of sq miles many, many, many, years ago.
The real question isn't, are humans causing climate change. The real question is rather we can control climate change. The fact that humans are contributing is not the real issue. The real issue is control. There seems to be a naturalistic fallacy in our thought process. We as humans are an integral part of the eco system, just as birds, monkeys and all the other forms of life on earth. what byproduct that comes from humans, even though it may not seem like it, is really in a sense natural. Maybe methane from dinosaur farts caused mesozoic climate changes. who the hell knows...
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?Anyone can be a monotonous brick in the wall. The real challenge is to be a squirrel. You cant build a brick wall with squirrels, a squirrel will not stay put. Even building a wall with dead squirrels would still be more interesting than a old brick wall
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