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Is Fox News providing unlawful corporate, in-kind contributions to Republicans?
Fox News is Guilty 85%  85%  [ 11 ]
Fox News is Not Guilty 15%  15%  [ 2 ]
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31 Oct 2011, 12:43 pm

Well, here are the FEC rules

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2011-t ... 1-vol1.pdf

It is quite a lot to wade through. Is there anything in here which either condemns of exonerates Fox "News" for providing non-stop Republican advertising?



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31 Oct 2011, 1:00 pm

pandabear wrote:
Well, here are the FEC rules

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2011-t ... 1-vol1.pdf

It is quite a lot to wade through. Is there anything in here which either condemns of exonerates Fox "News" for providing non-stop Republican advertising?


Not true. Fox News devoted hours to Hurricane Irene and no politics were mentioned.

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31 Oct 2011, 1:22 pm

ruveyn wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Well, here are the FEC rules

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2011-t ... 1-vol1.pdf

It is quite a lot to wade through. Is there anything in here which either condemns of exonerates Fox "News" for providing non-stop Republican advertising?


Not true. Fox News devoted hours to Hurricane Irene and no politics were mentioned.

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Not completely true

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08 ... opularity/



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31 Oct 2011, 1:34 pm

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I'd say free information is a sine qua non of a functioning democracy. A free press is a sine qua non of polarized groups of voters and softcore porn. It just happens to be the most primitive method of distributing free information. The horse and cart of information distribution.
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I suggest to you that free information cannot exist in the absence of free press. We might like to believe that social media exist in an environment separate and apart from "mainstream" media--but I don't think that this is the case. One need look no farther than the PRC to see how the coercive force of the state suppresses the free exchange of information and ideas. Given the broader and more effective reach of mainstream media, the suppression of these is far more inimical to a robust democracy.


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31 Oct 2011, 1:50 pm

pandabear wrote:

Not completely true

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08 ... opularity/


That was a factual report on what Christie said. It was no political advocacy.



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31 Oct 2011, 8:56 pm

Now that you mention it, there are occasional non-partisan news bits in between smearing President Obama and cheering on the Republican party.



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31 Oct 2011, 8:58 pm

pandabear wrote:
Now that you mention it, there are occasional non-partisan news bits in between smearing President Obama and cheering on the Republican party.


Sometimes they talk about the weather... no wait, they have made that a partisan issue on occasion. How silly of me


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01 Nov 2011, 1:51 pm

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If they are guilty, then the rest of the mainstream media is guilty of doing the same for the Democrats. :roll:


Not really :?
maybe MSNBC
but most media is not aware of its bias Fox knows that it is a biased source
they actively promote republican causes.


Why do you liberals always accuse fox news of everything :roll:
Cause liberals hate the fact Fox News single-handedly destroyed the left's control of television news.

This is also to distract from the issue that NPR is violating Federal Law (cause they receive taxpayer money).



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01 Nov 2011, 2:20 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
femme wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
zer0netgain wrote:
If they are guilty, then the rest of the mainstream media is guilty of doing the same for the Democrats. :roll:


Not really :?
maybe MSNBC
but most media is not aware of its bias Fox knows that it is a biased source
they actively promote republican causes.


Why do you liberals always accuse fox news of everything :roll:
Cause liberals hate the fact Fox News single-handedly destroyed the left's control of television news.

This is also to distract from the issue that NPR is violating Federal Law (cause they receive taxpayer money).


Oh my you've figured it out! Give me your quiz now, so I can put a happy face sticker on it


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01 Nov 2011, 2:51 pm

Vigilans wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
femme wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
zer0netgain wrote:
If they are guilty, then the rest of the mainstream media is guilty of doing the same for the Democrats. :roll:


Not really :?
maybe MSNBC
but most media is not aware of its bias Fox knows that it is a biased source
they actively promote republican causes.


Why do you liberals always accuse fox news of everything :roll:
Cause liberals hate the fact Fox News single-handedly destroyed the left's control of television news.

This is also to distract from the issue that NPR is violating Federal Law (cause they receive taxpayer money).


Oh my you've figured it out! Give me your quiz now, so I can put a happy face sticker on it


Not so fast. Which Federal Law is NPR violating?



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01 Nov 2011, 3:00 pm

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This is all logical and can't be disputed. Now exactly what were they being accused of and how is that not an offense/a lie?


Beats me. I am not aware of Fox News violating any laws.

ruveyn

Okay so what we need to ask is what law is being violated to the person making the accusation. Pandabear?

They're guilty of hitting a 10 on Pandabear's Richtor scale of gashness. :lol:


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01 Nov 2011, 3:26 pm

pandabear wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
femme wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
zer0netgain wrote:
If they are guilty, then the rest of the mainstream media is guilty of doing the same for the Democrats. :roll:


Not really :?
maybe MSNBC
but most media is not aware of its bias Fox knows that it is a biased source
they actively promote republican causes.


Why do you liberals always accuse fox news of everything :roll:
Cause liberals hate the fact Fox News single-handedly destroyed the left's control of television news.

This is also to distract from the issue that NPR is violating Federal Law (cause they receive taxpayer money).


Oh my you've figured it out! Give me your quiz now, so I can put a happy face sticker on it


Not so fast. Which Federal Law is NPR violating?


Good point. I'm going to have to take that sticker off your quiz, Inu.


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01 Nov 2011, 9:53 pm

Have we just been pie-shicked again?

I don't know what we are talking about any more.



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01 Nov 2011, 10:09 pm

Vigilans wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Not so fast. Which Federal Law is NPR violating?


Good point. I'm going to have to take that sticker off your quiz, Inu.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... alled-unl/
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But lawmakers and conservative critics argue the stations are breaking two laws, one that prohibits using taxpayer-funded grants to petition Congress for more taxpayer money and the other that bans nonprofits from doing much lobbying of any kind.

I'll take his sticker and paste it to my forehead thank you. :)


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02 Nov 2011, 12:06 am

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Not so fast. Which Federal Law is NPR violating?


Good point. I'm going to have to take that sticker off your quiz, Inu.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... alled-unl/
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But lawmakers and conservative critics argue the stations are breaking two laws, one that prohibits using taxpayer-funded grants to petition Congress for more taxpayer money and the other that bans nonprofits from doing much lobbying of any kind.

I'll take his sticker and paste it to my forehead thank you. :)


Thanks for pointing this out, like I did the last dozen times or so, hopefully this time people will listen.

NPR receives taxpayer money, that puts it in a different set of laws, one of which is they can't start taking sides in politics, which they do frequently.

Recently released emails between liberal "journalists," professors and activists have revealed that NPR producer Sarah Spitz fantasized about laughing in Rush Limbaugh's face as he died of a heart attack.
http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in ... h-limbaugh

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7msrF1V4NeY[/youtube]
Note this NPR employee was not fired for the remarks in video above.



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02 Nov 2011, 9:47 am

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Not so fast. Which Federal Law is NPR violating?


Good point. I'm going to have to take that sticker off your quiz, Inu.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... alled-unl/
Quote:
But lawmakers and conservative critics argue the stations are breaking two laws, one that prohibits using taxpayer-funded grants to petition Congress for more taxpayer money and the other that bans nonprofits from doing much lobbying of any kind.

I'll take his sticker and paste it to my forehead thank you. :)


:roll:

For one thing, the Washington Times is owned by a tax-exempt religious organization. If a more mainstream religious entity were to run a newspaper in a similar manner, then you "Conservatives" would be pooping in your pants with indignation.

You didn't quote the whole article. And, the part that you did quote doesn't state that the stations are breaking any laws, only that "lawmakers and conservative critics argue the stations are breaking two laws." There is a difference between conservative critics "arguing" that stations are breaking laws, and stations actually breaking laws. "Conservative" critics certainly do a lot of arguing, and, if they had their way, then none of us would know anything or even have any fun that didn't involve shooting guns. "Conservative" critics arguing something does not automatically make it true.

As discussed in the case against Media Matters, non-profit organizations are not banned from "doing much lobbying of any kind"-- only from engaging in "excessive" lobbying. This is also mentioned in your article.

Your article further states that the radio and television stations have been careful not to use money from the federal government in their advertisements.