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27 Mar 2012, 2:41 pm

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So is casting a love spell ethical?


Most would say no. I don't do spell casting like that, so it's a matter of irrelevance to me. The spell always affects the caster far more strongly than the target.


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27 Mar 2012, 7:47 pm

I was raised in a Christian household. My family converted me to Catholicism when I was 11. But my belief in God (the Christian God at least) and especially my loyalty to the Church has been faltering a lot lately. Even though I claim to still belong to Catholicism, I feel like every time I pray or say the words "I'm Catholic", the words feel empty now, like I'm just paying lip service to a God I may or may not actually believe in anymore. Besides, I haven't actively practiced the religion in like 3 years.

But while I don't really believe in the Christian God anymore, I don't want to stop believing in a god (or gods/goddesses), since I still feel like a spiritual person inside. I'm seriously considering trying out Paganism, particularly the Wicca branch. Another thing I've considered doing is just believing in my own religion, since I have imaginary friends based on my favorite fictional characters who seem to fill a spiritual need inside of me.



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28 Mar 2012, 5:24 am

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I was raised in a Christian household. My family converted me to Catholicism when I was 11. But my belief in God (the Christian God at least) and especially my loyalty to the Church has been faltering a lot lately. Even though I claim to still belong to Catholicism, I feel like every time I pray or say the words "I'm Catholic", the words feel empty now, like I'm just paying lip service to a God I may or may not actually believe in anymore. Besides, I haven't actively practiced the religion in like 3 years.

But while I don't really believe in the Christian God anymore, I don't want to stop believing in a god (or gods/goddesses), since I still feel like a spiritual person inside. I'm seriously considering trying out Paganism, particularly the Wicca branch. Another thing I've considered doing is just believing in my own religion, since I have imaginary friends based on my favorite fictional characters who seem to fill a spiritual need inside of me.


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28 Mar 2012, 6:48 pm

Casting a love spell is subjecting your lover to psychic attack.



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28 Mar 2012, 8:55 pm

I am my own blend of buddhist and pagan. my beliefs and philosophy are predominantly buddhist, though I have celebrated pagan holidays for years; spring and autumn equanoix and winter solstice in place of traditional holidays. when my children were growing up I recieved a few critical looks from parents who couldent believe that I had done away with santa and the easter bunny.



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28 Mar 2012, 9:05 pm

ellora wrote:
I am my own blend of buddhist and pagan. my beliefs and philosophy are predominantly buddhist, though I have celebrated pagan holidays for years; spring and autumn equanoix and winter solstice in place of traditional holidays. when my children were growing up I recieved a few critical looks from parents who couldent believe that I had done away with santa and the easter bunny.


I love Santa. Technically, he is the first God I ever worshiped (believed in, communicated with, followed the rules of and made offerings to).


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29 Mar 2012, 1:22 am

I don't have a religion and do not consider myself an agnostic or atheist...I have no label for it, I just don't care...I find some religions and mythology and such interesting but I don't follow any religions...I also do not deny there are spiritual energies and such, and I am not stuck between 'does god exist, or does god not exist' so I'm not really an agnostic either from my understanding.

Belive it or not I've gotten crap for this because people find it that shocking that I don't have any religious beliefs or describe myself as an atheist or agnostic. I don't really see the big deal why does one have to have a label for how they understand the world and universe?


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29 Mar 2012, 3:13 pm

Yes there would be an advantage to your objectivity as many religious people are blind when they consider communism.



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29 Mar 2012, 3:14 pm

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Yes there would be an advantage to your objectivity as many religious people are blind when they consider communism.


What does communism have to do with anything?


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31 Mar 2012, 12:21 pm

idlewild wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
So is casting a love spell ethical?


Most would say no. I don't do spell casting like that, so it's a matter of irrelevance to me. The spell always affects the caster far more strongly than the target.


I believe that most times it is not ethical, but I have found one person who was very careful with the love spell:
http://www.paganjourneys.com/index.php? ... 0#msg25470
I believe that he did it correctly--it wasn't aimed at any specific person, etc....



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31 Mar 2012, 1:02 pm

idlewild wrote:
ellora wrote:
I am my own blend of buddhist and pagan. my beliefs and philosophy are predominantly buddhist, though I have celebrated pagan holidays for years; spring and autumn equanoix and winter solstice in place of traditional holidays. when my children were growing up I recieved a few critical looks from parents who couldent believe that I had done away with santa and the easter bunny.


I love Santa. Technically, he is the first God I ever worshiped (believed in, communicated with, followed the rules of and made offerings to).


Christmas and Easter are not untainted by Paganism themselves.

Bunnies are pagan fertility symbols of spring that have nothing to do with Christ, and December 25th is the birthday of ancient pagan sun god.



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31 Mar 2012, 1:03 pm

diniesaur wrote:
idlewild wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
So is casting a love spell ethical?


Most would say no. I don't do spell casting like that, so it's a matter of irrelevance to me. The spell always affects the caster far more strongly than the target.


I believe that most times it is not ethical, but I have found one person who was very careful with the love spell:
http://www.paganjourneys.com/index.php? ... 0#msg25470
I believe that he did it correctly--it wasn't aimed at any specific person, etc....


Did it actually work though?

that is: get the target person to pay attention to the spell maker in a romantic way?



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31 Mar 2012, 4:15 pm

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I know that I am not a Christian, atheist or agnostic. I am currently in the process of researching and finding a religion.
I believe in a creator but not a messiah and feel a strong connection with nature. I don't know if I believe in an afterlife.
Does anyone have any suggestions?


Wikipedia has an article on Spinozism that you might find relevant.



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31 Mar 2012, 4:26 pm

Love spells work but they put the victim under psychic attack.



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31 Mar 2012, 5:38 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
idlewild wrote:
ellora wrote:
I am my own blend of buddhist and pagan. my beliefs and philosophy are predominantly buddhist, though I have celebrated pagan holidays for years; spring and autumn equanoix and winter solstice in place of traditional holidays. when my children were growing up I recieved a few critical looks from parents who couldent believe that I had done away with santa and the easter bunny.


I love Santa. Technically, he is the first God I ever worshiped (believed in, communicated with, followed the rules of and made offerings to).


Christmas and Easter are not untainted by Paganism themselves.

Bunnies are pagan fertility symbols of spring that have nothing to do with Christ, and December 25th is the birthday of ancient pagan sun god.


This is true. Catholicism folded in a lot of the existing culture to it's religious practices, right down to incense and altars.

But that doesn't mean those holidays are Pagan in nature. The solstice no longer falls on Dec 25th, and Easter certainly is no longer a celebration of Ishtar. While some of the elements have Pagan origins, in the past 1500 years the holidays have had time to become uniquely Christian, and as we enter into a more secular age we see them begin to drift from a Christian meaning to a secular celebration. In 1,000 years the meaning of those festivals could be quite different, regardless of their origins.


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31 Mar 2012, 9:51 pm

I find it impossible to accept in this scientific age the concept of worshiping the Moon. Yet I try to fit in with the Pagan community so I tell them it is my dream to go to the Moon rather than worshiping it. Better yet since most Pagans are interested in feminism I tell them that Women should also be allowed to go to the Moon.