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06 Jan 2012, 9:35 pm

Why have Christians been demonized here previously? I know WP is much better about that then when I arrived here in 2007, but there's still some of this crap still continuing. So why do people here do that? That's a much simpler and more answerable question, since those who do it are present and more able to answer for themselves rather than have their motivations conjectured or yet more rhetorical demonization of Christians occurring in defense of those who do such elsewhere.



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06 Jan 2012, 9:42 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:
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I don;t have any available right now, but it seems like people have a problem with christians.

People have a problem with tons of people.

But you claimed the media was demonizing Christians.
Still not finding any sign that the media demonizing Christians is true.


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06 Jan 2012, 10:16 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:
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I don;t have any available right now, but it seems like people have a problem with christians.

People have a problem with tons of people.

But you claimed the media was demonizing Christians.
Still not finding any sign that the media demonizing Christians is true.


Seek and you will find. Tell others to seek for you and verbally negate whatever results they find and you'll be ignored.



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06 Jan 2012, 11:51 pm

Perhaps if we Christians - especially those evangelicals who have tied themselves to the political far right - would truly love our neighbors as ourselves, and have compassion for the poor rather than blaming them for America's economic downturn, then we wouldn't be criticized so much.

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07 Jan 2012, 1:41 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Perhaps if we Christians - especially those evangelicals who have tied themselves to the political far right - would truly love our neighbors as ourselves, and have compassion for the poor rather than blaming them for America's economic downturn, then we wouldn't be criticized so much.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Couldn't have said it better myself.

I think there is an obvious disconnect between the mainstream media and Christianity, partially due to the fact that many journalists and creative writers tend to lean left. This is no surprise, and there are plenty of viable alternatives for the dismayed, such as Fox News or talk radio.

Plus, it is hard to take seriously any group of people (conservatives) that think the "sanctity of life" is somehow compatible with war and capital punishment. Pro-life my @ss. I'll believe it when they stop demanding that we cut off social programs to help the less fortunate, then they can lecture on "pro-life"



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07 Jan 2012, 2:05 am

Gamer wrote:
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Perhaps if we Christians - especially those evangelicals who have tied themselves to the political far right - would truly love our neighbors as ourselves, and have compassion for the poor rather than blaming them for America's economic downturn, then we wouldn't be criticized so much.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Couldn't have said it better myself.

I think there is an obvious disconnect between the mainstream media and Christianity, partially due to the fact that many journalists and creative writers tend to lean left. This is no surprise, and there are plenty of viable alternatives for the dismayed, such as Fox News or talk radio.

Plus, it is hard to take seriously any group of people (conservatives) that think the "sanctity of life" is somehow compatible with war and capital punishment. Pro-life my @ss. I'll believe it when they stop demanding that we cut off social programs to help the less fortunate, then they can lecture on "pro-life"


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07 Jan 2012, 2:09 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Kraichgauer wrote:
Perhaps if we Christians - especially those evangelicals who have tied themselves to the political far right - would truly love our neighbors as ourselves, and have compassion for the poor rather than blaming them for America's economic downturn, then we wouldn't be criticized so much.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Couldn't have said it better myself.

I think there is an obvious disconnect between the mainstream media and Christianity, partially due to the fact that many journalists and creative writers tend to lean left. This is no surprise, and there are plenty of viable alternatives for the dismayed, such as Fox News or talk radio.

Plus, it is hard to take seriously any group of people (conservatives) that think the "sanctity of life" is somehow compatible with war and capital punishment. Pro-life my @ss. I'll believe it when they stop demanding that we cut off social programs to help the less fortunate, then they can lecture on "pro-life"


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Conservatives seemingly care about you before you're born and after you die, but not in between.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


"They want live babies so they can make dead soldiers" - George Carlin.



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07 Jan 2012, 2:12 am

Gamer wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Gamer wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Perhaps if we Christians - especially those evangelicals who have tied themselves to the political far right - would truly love our neighbors as ourselves, and have compassion for the poor rather than blaming them for America's economic downturn, then we wouldn't be criticized so much.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Couldn't have said it better myself.

I think there is an obvious disconnect between the mainstream media and Christianity, partially due to the fact that many journalists and creative writers tend to lean left. This is no surprise, and there are plenty of viable alternatives for the dismayed, such as Fox News or talk radio.

Plus, it is hard to take seriously any group of people (conservatives) that think the "sanctity of life" is somehow compatible with war and capital punishment. Pro-life my @ss. I'll believe it when they stop demanding that we cut off social programs to help the less fortunate, then they can lecture on "pro-life"


Amen!
Conservatives seemingly care about you before you're born and after you die, but not in between.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


"They want live babies so they can make dead soldiers" - George Carlin.


Stands to reason.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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07 Jan 2012, 2:22 am

The religious right approved method of abortion is to cut pregnant woman off of food stamps which of course causes the fetus to die.



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07 Jan 2012, 2:36 am

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The religious right approved method of abortion is to cut pregnant woman off of food stamps which of course causes the fetus to die.


The religious right's heartlessness and hypocrisy makes me see red.

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07 Jan 2012, 6:25 am

Some interesting links.


http://www.parentstv.org/ptc/publicatio ... y/main.asp
-Clergy and organized religion is very often portrayed in a negative light.

http://mediamatters.org/reports/leftbehind/

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6No7GkjQ4uE&feature=channel_video_title[/youtube]


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07 Jan 2012, 7:16 am

91 wrote:
Some interesting links.


http://www.parentstv.org/ptc/publicatio ... y/main.asp
-Clergy and organized religion is very often portrayed in a negative light.



Particularly when Pastor Fuzz has his way with the little boys and girls of his flock. Do you know what shepherds sometimes do with their flock? Sure you do.

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07 Jan 2012, 10:42 am

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There were 2,344 treatments of religion - from a brief prayer to the actual presence of God in a scene - an average of one an hour.

· Of these treatments, 22.1 percent were positive, 24.4 percent negative.

Most of the religious content on prime time broadcast TV was neither positive nor negative. 42.3% of religious treatments on TV were neutral,

WOW! It is a media conspiracy.

The study is by itself not that great (making a conclusion over 2 extra percent points in negative treatments, seriously?). It needs not only quantify the criticisms to religion but compare them to criticism to other things.

For example, do religious people get knocked over in the media consistently worse than atheist people? My anecdotal evidence gives me the opposite conclusion - Atheists tend to be portrayed way more negatively than even fundie xtians.

Are religious people criticized in media a lot more than other groups? Compare with latinos, for example. Or I don't know, doctors. Who gets demonized the most?


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07 Jan 2012, 11:01 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
It seems like these days, Christians are made out to be demons, "bad guys", villians, etc. on TV and the media.

When I see an article on Yahoo News, peoples' comments seem to be blaming "Christians" for all the world's problems.

I never see people say these things about Islam, Judaism, etc. Christianity seems to be singled out.

Why is that?


Have you been living in a cave? Christianity being the only religion ever singled out besides Islam and Judaism :lmao:


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07 Jan 2012, 12:42 pm

androbot2084 wrote:
The religious right approved method of abortion is to cut pregnant woman off of food stamps which of course causes the fetus to die.


No it doesn't. There are other ways of getting food.

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07 Jan 2012, 1:09 pm

Food banks will only give a pregnant women a 3 day supply of food per month.