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29 Apr 2012, 1:41 pm

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Anti-Islam rhetoric seems to come in two contradictory flavours:

(1.) Modern Islam is barbarous compared to modern Christianity because Christianity went through the Enlightenment and people don't take it so seriously anymore, whereas Islam is still a "young" religion.

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From 622 c.e. to the Present 2012 c.e.? Scientology is a young religion. Islam is not.

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Scientology can't really be called a religion because a religion has a belief in God a afterlife ect how ever Scientology does not.


Says who?


Um a dictionary Scientology believe the earth has been around even longer then it really has and a bunch of stuff that is more insane then my religion it's based on a science fiction novel.



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29 Apr 2012, 1:42 pm

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it appears that this story is untrue:

http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/NewsDeta ... yid=329047


Good.


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29 Apr 2012, 1:44 pm

Joker wrote:
Lord_Gareth wrote:
Joker wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Declension wrote:
Anti-Islam rhetoric seems to come in two contradictory flavours:

(1.) Modern Islam is barbarous compared to modern Christianity because Christianity went through the Enlightenment and people don't take it so seriously anymore, whereas Islam is still a "young" religion.

.


From 622 c.e. to the Present 2012 c.e.? Scientology is a young religion. Islam is not.

ruveyn


Scientology can't really be called a religion because a religion has a belief in God a afterlife ect how ever Scientology does not.


Says who?


Um a dictionary Scientology believe the earth has been around even longer then it really has and a bunch of stuff that is more insane then my religion it's based on a science fiction novel.


Who says religions need a god (or gods) or an afterlife? Besides, Scientology has an implied afterlife, as they believe in eternal 'souls' that can affect the material world.


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29 Apr 2012, 1:49 pm

Lord_Gareth wrote:
Joker wrote:
Lord_Gareth wrote:
Joker wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Declension wrote:
Anti-Islam rhetoric seems to come in two contradictory flavours:

(1.) Modern Islam is barbarous compared to modern Christianity because Christianity went through the Enlightenment and people don't take it so seriously anymore, whereas Islam is still a "young" religion.

.


From 622 c.e. to the Present 2012 c.e.? Scientology is a young religion. Islam is not.

ruveyn


Scientology can't really be called a religion because a religion has a belief in God a afterlife ect how ever Scientology does not.


Says who?


Um a dictionary Scientology believe the earth has been around even longer then it really has and a bunch of stuff that is more insane then my religion it's based on a science fiction novel.


Who says religions need a god (or gods) or an afterlife? Besides, Scientology has an implied afterlife, as they believe in eternal 'souls' that can affect the material world.


That is more strange then what I believe you have to admit even Bill Maher said that Scientologists are more insane then Christians Jews and Muslims. A religion has a center of whorship so logically they will whorship a God.

The basic belief of Scientology is that experience, in this or in previous lives, is recorded in the brain as a series of "engrams." These engrams are revived and reinforced by recurring similar situations and always cause inappropriate and self-defeating behavior. One's goal of Scientology is to "process" or clear these engrams and become more self-determining. By erasing these accretions from one's present and past lives, one releases the essential, spiritual self or soul called the "thetan."

Like I said that is just nuts.



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29 Apr 2012, 3:31 pm

Joker wrote:
Lord_Gareth wrote:
Joker wrote:
Lord_Gareth wrote:
Joker wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Declension wrote:
Anti-Islam rhetoric seems to come in two contradictory flavours:

(1.) Modern Islam is barbarous compared to modern Christianity because Christianity went through the Enlightenment and people don't take it so seriously anymore, whereas Islam is still a "young" religion.

.


From 622 c.e. to the Present 2012 c.e.? Scientology is a young religion. Islam is not.

ruveyn


Scientology can't really be called a religion because a religion has a belief in God a afterlife ect how ever Scientology does not.


Says who?


Um a dictionary Scientology believe the earth has been around even longer then it really has and a bunch of stuff that is more insane then my religion it's based on a science fiction novel.


Who says religions need a god (or gods) or an afterlife? Besides, Scientology has an implied afterlife, as they believe in eternal 'souls' that can affect the material world.


That is more strange then what I believe you have to admit even Bill Maher said that Scientologists are more insane then Christians Jews and Muslims. A religion has a center of whorship so logically they will whorship a God.

The basic belief of Scientology is that experience, in this or in previous lives, is recorded in the brain as a series of "engrams." These engrams are revived and reinforced by recurring similar situations and always cause inappropriate and self-defeating behavior. One's goal of Scientology is to "process" or clear these engrams and become more self-determining. By erasing these accretions from one's present and past lives, one releases the essential, spiritual self or soul called the "thetan."

Like I said that is just nuts.


The late sci/fi writer Theodore Sturgeon, who was the real life basis of Kurt Vonnegut's Kilgore Trout, had claimed he was present when L. Ron Hubbard said he was going to start his own religion.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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29 Apr 2012, 4:02 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Joker wrote:
Lord_Gareth wrote:
Joker wrote:
Lord_Gareth wrote:
Joker wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Declension wrote:
Anti-Islam rhetoric seems to come in two contradictory flavours:

(1.) Modern Islam is barbarous compared to modern Christianity because Christianity went through the Enlightenment and people don't take it so seriously anymore, whereas Islam is still a "young" religion.

.


From 622 c.e. to the Present 2012 c.e.? Scientology is a young religion. Islam is not.

ruveyn


Scientology can't really be called a religion because a religion has a belief in God a afterlife ect how ever Scientology does not.


Says who?


Um a dictionary Scientology believe the earth has been around even longer then it really has and a bunch of stuff that is more insane then my religion it's based on a science fiction novel.


Who says religions need a god (or gods) or an afterlife? Besides, Scientology has an implied afterlife, as they believe in eternal 'souls' that can affect the material world.


That is more strange then what I believe you have to admit even Bill Maher said that Scientologists are more insane then Christians Jews and Muslims. A religion has a center of whorship so logically they will whorship a God.

The basic belief of Scientology is that experience, in this or in previous lives, is recorded in the brain as a series of "engrams." These engrams are revived and reinforced by recurring similar situations and always cause inappropriate and self-defeating behavior. One's goal of Scientology is to "process" or clear these engrams and become more self-determining. By erasing these accretions from one's present and past lives, one releases the essential, spiritual self or soul called the "thetan."

Like I said that is just nuts.


The late sci/fi writer Theodore Sturgeon, who was the real life basis of Kurt Vonnegut's Kilgore Trout, had claimed he was present when L. Ron Hubbard said he was going to start his own religion.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


If it started at the same time our faith did I would consider viewing it as a religion instead I veiw it as a practice.



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29 Apr 2012, 4:30 pm

Joker wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Joker wrote:
Lord_Gareth wrote:
Joker wrote:
Lord_Gareth wrote:
Joker wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Declension wrote:
Anti-Islam rhetoric seems to come in two contradictory flavours:

(1.) Modern Islam is barbarous compared to modern Christianity because Christianity went through the Enlightenment and people don't take it so seriously anymore, whereas Islam is still a "young" religion.

.


From 622 c.e. to the Present 2012 c.e.? Scientology is a young religion. Islam is not.

ruveyn


Scientology can't really be called a religion because a religion has a belief in God a afterlife ect how ever Scientology does not.


Says who?


Um a dictionary Scientology believe the earth has been around even longer then it really has and a bunch of stuff that is more insane then my religion it's based on a science fiction novel.


Who says religions need a god (or gods) or an afterlife? Besides, Scientology has an implied afterlife, as they believe in eternal 'souls' that can affect the material world.


That is more strange then what I believe you have to admit even Bill Maher said that Scientologists are more insane then Christians Jews and Muslims. A religion has a center of whorship so logically they will whorship a God.

The basic belief of Scientology is that experience, in this or in previous lives, is recorded in the brain as a series of "engrams." These engrams are revived and reinforced by recurring similar situations and always cause inappropriate and self-defeating behavior. One's goal of Scientology is to "process" or clear these engrams and become more self-determining. By erasing these accretions from one's present and past lives, one releases the essential, spiritual self or soul called the "thetan."

Like I said that is just nuts.


The late sci/fi writer Theodore Sturgeon, who was the real life basis of Kurt Vonnegut's Kilgore Trout, had claimed he was present when L. Ron Hubbard said he was going to start his own religion.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


If it started at the same time our faith did I would consider viewing it as a religion instead I veiw it as a practice.


I view it as a money making scheme masquerading as a cult.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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29 Apr 2012, 7:58 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Joker wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Joker wrote:
Lord_Gareth wrote:
Joker wrote:
Lord_Gareth wrote:
Joker wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Declension wrote:
Anti-Islam rhetoric seems to come in two contradictory flavours:

(1.) Modern Islam is barbarous compared to modern Christianity because Christianity went through the Enlightenment and people don't take it so seriously anymore, whereas Islam is still a "young" religion.

.


From 622 c.e. to the Present 2012 c.e.? Scientology is a young religion. Islam is not.

ruveyn


Scientology can't really be called a religion because a religion has a belief in God a afterlife ect how ever Scientology does not.


Says who?


Um a dictionary Scientology believe the earth has been around even longer then it really has and a bunch of stuff that is more insane then my religion it's based on a science fiction novel.


Who says religions need a god (or gods) or an afterlife? Besides, Scientology has an implied afterlife, as they believe in eternal 'souls' that can affect the material world.


That is more strange then what I believe you have to admit even Bill Maher said that Scientologists are more insane then Christians Jews and Muslims. A religion has a center of whorship so logically they will whorship a God.

The basic belief of Scientology is that experience, in this or in previous lives, is recorded in the brain as a series of "engrams." These engrams are revived and reinforced by recurring similar situations and always cause inappropriate and self-defeating behavior. One's goal of Scientology is to "process" or clear these engrams and become more self-determining. By erasing these accretions from one's present and past lives, one releases the essential, spiritual self or soul called the "thetan."

Like I said that is just nuts.


The late sci/fi writer Theodore Sturgeon, who was the real life basis of Kurt Vonnegut's Kilgore Trout, had claimed he was present when L. Ron Hubbard said he was going to start his own religion.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


If it started at the same time our faith did I would consider viewing it as a religion instead I veiw it as a practice.


I view it as a money making scheme masquerading as a cult.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


As do I because they do no mission work the way Jews Christans and Muslims do they don't deicate their life to their so called faith and are unwilling to give up their life in the name of their faith.



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20 May 2012, 9:17 am

Joker wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Declension wrote:
Anti-Islam rhetoric seems to come in two contradictory flavours:

(1.) Modern Islam is barbarous compared to modern Christianity because Christianity went through the Enlightenment and people don't take it so seriously anymore, whereas Islam is still a "young" religion.

.


From 622 c.e. to the Present 2012 c.e.? Scientology is a young religion. Islam is not.

ruveyn


Scientology can't really be called a religion because a religion has a belief in God a afterlife ect how ever Scientology does not.


re·li·gion   [ri-lij-uhn] Show IPA
noun
a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3.
the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.

So technically atheism, evolutionism, and Scientology are all religions :)



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20 May 2012, 10:20 am

SillyEnigma wrote:
Joker wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Declension wrote:
Anti-Islam rhetoric seems to come in two contradictory flavours:

(1.) Modern Islam is barbarous compared to modern Christianity because Christianity went through the Enlightenment and people don't take it so seriously anymore, whereas Islam is still a "young" religion.

.


From 622 c.e. to the Present 2012 c.e.? Scientology is a young religion. Islam is not.

ruveyn


Scientology can't really be called a religion because a religion has a belief in God a afterlife ect how ever Scientology does not.


re·li·gion   [ri-lij-uhn] Show IPA
noun
a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3.
the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.

So technically atheism, evolutionism, and Scientology are all religions :)


I think casting evolution into the role of religion is going a bit overboard, if you don't mind me saying. Religion is a matter of faith, whereas evolution is a matter of facts.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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23 May 2012, 10:25 am

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So technically atheism, evolutionism, and Scientology are all religions :)


Evolution is a biological theory (and experimentally well supported). It is not a religion. There are no rituals or regular practices specifically associated with it. Atheism is not a religion. It is a judgement on the proposition "God exists". There are no rituals or regular practices associated with it. There is no organized Church of Evolution or Atheism anywhere in the world. The closest thing is Ethical Humanism which does have an organization promoting it.

Note how the religious folk want to tar better ways of thinking with their own putrid defective brush.

Religious sh*ts so what wish to spread the sh*t to other and better things.

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