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23 Jun 2012, 10:23 am

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I am pro-Israeli (by and large) because I am in favor of civilized folk.

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I hate the violence and the way in which some of the Palestinians are treated (I say 'some' in reference to the non-violent, tranquil ones) and I want there to be peace, but I'd have to agree with you there- I'd have to say pro-Israeli; the main reason in doing so is the relationship that the Palestinian political leaders have with terrorist groups like Hamas. Also, the fact that the Palestinians want to take Jerusalem as their capital would make peace between the two impossible because Israel would never let that happen, and frankly I DON'T blame them for denying a Palestinian state.

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24 Jun 2012, 10:57 am

ruveyn wrote:

I am pro-Israeli (by and large) because I am in favor of civilized folk.

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Let's say they fly interceptors just at the verge of breaking sonic barrier a couple dozen meters above your roof. Or shoot down ships with humanitary help. Or place a military checkpoint on every street corner to separate wheat from the chaff. Or grab your land by illegal fortified settlements and drive on roads between them with armored vehicles. I wouldn't call that civilized. In fact, it would make me very uncivilized too.

When there is no civilization, look at the technologic level. It's incomparable, Israel has nukes and everything below it, Palestinians have to make do with home-made missiles that fly like crap and sometimes won't even detonate. When you realize that, it's the stronger who terrorizes the weaker.

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24 Jun 2012, 1:02 pm

Of course not pro-Israel

But I am not in love with Palestinians either.

So i vote none.

What are the results so far?

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24 Jun 2012, 5:27 pm

Pro-Israel all the way. lets build a protective dome around all of Israels rightful land, then turn the rest of the mid east into a parking lot.

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24 Jun 2012, 6:26 pm

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Pro-Israel all the way. lets build a protective dome around all of Israels rightful land, then turn the rest of the mid east into a parking lot.

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24 Jun 2012, 7:46 pm

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Pro-Israel all the way. lets build a protective dome around all of Israels rightful land, then turn the rest of the mid east into a parking lot.

How does one to that without killing off everyone in Israel?

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25 Jun 2012, 4:14 pm

I am Pro Palestine, but I am still a proud jew.

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25 Jun 2012, 7:36 pm

I'm pro Israel.

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25 Jun 2012, 8:05 pm

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Pro-Israel all the way. lets build a protective dome around all of Israels rightful land, then turn the rest of the mid east into a parking lot.

I'd rather just build a dome around the both of them, and check back in a century or so to see what happened. This is the most overblown conflict in history, if you ask me. The last intifadeh had roughly the same casualties as the Troubles in Northern Ireland, and far fewer than any of the conflicts happening all around it. The conflict between the PKK and Turkey along the eastern Turkish border, which began at roughly the same time, claimed more lives and hardly anyone is familiar with it because it's relegated to a tiny, pictureless article on page 27 of the news rather than the front page.

There's no logic to the amount of attention paid to it. People say it threatens world peace, but again, that's really only because of the attention paid to it! It's a self-fulfilling prophecy in that way, no other substance behind it really. There are no rivers of blood there - only rivers of ink, everywhere. It would take almost 1000 years, at present rates, for this conflict to equal, say, the Rwandan genocide. And it would take Rwanda 1000 years of genocide to equal the amount of ink spilled on behalf of Israel and Palestine.

The reason for the obsession I think is mainly emotional, hysterical, and religious. That conflict would rapidly abate in the absence of global interest in it. We do neither of them favours by yabbering on about it all the time and taking sides, like its a sports rivalry.

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25 Jun 2012, 9:22 pm

Cloudlet wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

I am pro-Israeli (by and large) because I am in favor of civilized folk.

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Really those AID Ships could have simply submitted to having the ships searched, since they would be entering Israeli Territorial Waters and there wouldn't have been the incident. That "AID" Group went in there to deliberately provoke a confrontation, what they probably didn't count on was that they had a bunch of radicals along with them (at least I hope that's the case and not the majority of them wanting a violent confrontation).

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25 Jun 2012, 9:27 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

Of course not pro-Israel

But I am not in love with Palestinians either.

So i vote none.

What are the results so far?

There isn't a 'both as bad as each other' option so I haven't voted and can't see the results.

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25 Jun 2012, 9:43 pm

I am a Muslim therefor I am Pro Palestinian and Anti Israeli I been learning about the Palestinian issue since I was 15 years of ago I was a Non Muslim back then.

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26 Jun 2012, 12:11 pm

mikecartwright wrote:

I am a Muslim therefor I am Pro Palestinian and Anti Israeli I been learning about the Palestinian issue since I was 15 years of ago I was a Non Muslim back then.

The first does not necessarily lead to the second, nor the third.

I respect your faith, but I question the uncritical nature of you statements.

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26 Jun 2012, 12:34 pm

gailryder17 wrote:

Who do you side with and why?

NEITHER.

And I'm sick and tired of the America Media harping over every little last detail of what goes on there and seeing thread after thread after thread about it across the internet. It cannot be solved internationally because both sides REFUSE to cooperate. They are determined to have this conflict because it gives their lives and their faith meaning.

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26 Jun 2012, 10:08 pm

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gailryder17 wrote:

Who do you side with and why?

Their religion is not the issue they just do not like each other simple as that.

BTW I am neutral on the issue.

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26 Jun 2012, 10:57 pm

You should have put a third option for neither. As far as im concerned the Middle East causes more problems than its worth. I say if they want a religious war with the West, we should show them Armageddon. As an atheist, i cant stand religious wars, so i advocate a Liberal use of our nukes and glass the Middle East and show them Armageddon like they want. Im a Classical Liberal which is the opposite of Modern Liberals and closer to Libertarian, so i register Libertarian. Just wanted to clear that up when i said Liberal, i didnt want my words to be misunderstood in any way.

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