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18 Dec 2012, 11:52 am

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I realize that the Left has helped enact many laws and protections that have benefited minorities in America and have helped lift them up in society. However, and especially during this last election, it seems like they perpetuating this idea that minorities still need protection, and that they won't get it unless they vote for Obama. They even attack minorities that hold right wing views.

So I ask you guys, is the Left really catering that much to minorities, and if so, should they keep continuing to do it?


The american left side (democrats) has survived by trying to add in as many special interest groups as they can. Minorities being one of them. This even reflects on their candidates (and im not just talking obama, jfk being the first catholic in office and other attempted candidates like hilary). But those groups alone arent enough to completely dominate. They also need to have one more thing, a reason to unite. Otherwise all these groups will fall to a smaller party that more directly caters to their individual needs. This is where the right wing rich old homophobic biblehumping gun nut white guy stereotype comes in. It paints an image that everyone is against and that they are the only way to beat it. And to capture some of the younger voters throw in the whole fad of being popular and new agey. And that is the mix of what makes the democrats system of getting in office work.


But what's wrong with giving a voice to the voiceless? And minorities more often than not are voiceless. And what's wrong with standing against groups like racists and homophobes who purposely keep minorities down?

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18 Dec 2012, 11:59 am

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But what's wrong with giving a voice to the voiceless? And minorities more often than not are voiceless. And what's wrong with standing against groups like racists and homophobes who purposely keep minorities down?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


By sticking a gun in the face of Those Who Have A Voice and saying "pay up or we bust your knee caps"?

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18 Dec 2012, 12:45 pm

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But what's wrong with giving a voice to the voiceless? And minorities more often than not are voiceless. And what's wrong with standing against groups like racists and homophobes who purposely keep minorities down?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


By sticking a gun in the face of Those Who Have A Voice and saying "pay up or we bust your knee caps"?

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No, by passing legislation allowing blacks to vote, or get economic opportunities, or to allow gays to marry. Or in other words, just to let them be first class citizens, as everyone else.

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18 Dec 2012, 1:17 pm

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No, by passing legislation allowing blacks to vote, or get economic opportunities, or to allow gays to marry. Or in other words, just to let them be first class citizens, as everyone else.

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"get economic opportunities" as in get affirmative action jobs for which they are not otherwise qualified?

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18 Dec 2012, 6:02 pm

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No, by passing legislation allowing blacks to vote, or get economic opportunities, or to allow gays to marry. Or in other words, just to let them be first class citizens, as everyone else.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


"get economic opportunities" as in get affirmative action jobs for which they are not otherwise qualified?

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Has there seriously ever been a time when a black man with no training in nuclear science has been made an engineer in a nuclear plant, simply to fill a quota?

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18 Dec 2012, 6:14 pm

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Has there seriously ever been a time when a black man with no training in nuclear science has been made an engineer in a nuclear plant, simply to fill a quota?

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I met two. They had training. But they were not very capable. They got their jobs because their ancestors were slaves, not because they could do the jobs well.

For industries where screw-ups mean death, destruction, harm and great expense I am a stickler for meritocracy.

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18 Dec 2012, 7:58 pm

Not to mention that that liberal's coddling of the "voiceless" pretty much secures their vote.


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18 Dec 2012, 8:01 pm

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The left never caters to the gifted and the excellent, and they are certainly in the minority.

The folks on the left have a soft-spot for the dead heads, the free loaders, the congenital and chronic failures. They want to hug a cuddle these losers and make them theirs forever.

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This is an unusual place to see such a post. A lot of people on this website are "chronic failures", and they have a plausible excuse for it too.



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18 Dec 2012, 8:05 pm

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This is an unusual place to see such a post. A lot of people on this website are "chronic failures", and they have a plausible excuse for it too.


We are what we are and we have no right to the pity of others nor of special privileges. I was treated as a freak when I was young and bullied harshly. I am not claiming an "affirmative action" rights because of my misfortune. Every blow that does not kill us, makes us stronger.

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19 Dec 2012, 2:55 am

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Last time I checked, the US Left was seriously pointing fingers at some group of people known "The One Percent" on behalf of some other group of people known as "The 99 Percent".

Wouldn't one percent of a population be a minority ? :scratch:


Didn't you know? Money and corporations count as people now.

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21 Dec 2012, 8:48 pm

I'm sure the "Left" is catering to minorities, but is that necessarily a bad thg?

Think about it: Conservatives cater to gun-nuts, hunters, and what not.
Everyone who wants to make a living caters to a specific demographic, be it gamers, geeks, goths, toddlers, mothers, minorities, vegans, homosexuals, senior citizens or hunters.



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22 Dec 2012, 12:24 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
MXH wrote:
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I realize that the Left has helped enact many laws and protections that have benefited minorities in America and have helped lift them up in society. However, and especially during this last election, it seems like they perpetuating this idea that minorities still need protection, and that they won't get it unless they vote for Obama. They even attack minorities that hold right wing views.

So I ask you guys, is the Left really catering that much to minorities, and if so, should they keep continuing to do it?


The american left side (democrats) has survived by trying to add in as many special interest groups as they can. Minorities being one of them. This even reflects on their candidates (and im not just talking obama, jfk being the first catholic in office and other attempted candidates like hilary). But those groups alone arent enough to completely dominate. They also need to have one more thing, a reason to unite. Otherwise all these groups will fall to a smaller party that more directly caters to their individual needs. This is where the right wing rich old homophobic biblehumping gun nut white guy stereotype comes in. It paints an image that everyone is against and that they are the only way to beat it. And to capture some of the younger voters throw in the whole fad of being popular and new agey. And that is the mix of what makes the democrats system of getting in office work.


But what's wrong with giving a voice to the voiceless? And minorities more often than not are voiceless. And what's wrong with standing against groups like racists and homophobes who purposely keep minorities down?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Because this government wasnt made for that sort of BS. It was made to let the states work for themselves what they want to do and have a unifying government for protection. Yes, the united states was built to be a right wing country from the start. Because that is the only way to keep the country from turning into what those people where running from. A super oppressive government that took all it could and used it willy nilly and missed the important things.
Guess which one we have now.



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22 Dec 2012, 5:56 am

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And, I'll be glad when Whites are no longer the Majority.


Typical lefties mentality, "let's all hate the whites". It's not any better than when the whites were hating on the blacks. Neither is ok in a hateful context.

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And, I'll be glad when Whites are no longer the Majority.


In the case of the United States what will be accompanied by a general decline in intelligence and invention. Perhaps you won't be glad when that happens.

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Racist much?


Not much. Just realistic and factual. Look who is doing most of the inventing and the scientific work. It is not the Sons of Africa.

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I have to agree. It is largely the white population that are responsable for all these scientific breakthrough's. It's not racist, it is very much a fact in this current world. Although i'm always very interested when someone other than the white population makes a scientific breakthrough.


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22 Dec 2012, 8:05 am

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I have to agree. It is largely the white population that are responsable for all these scientific breakthrough's. It's not racist, it is very much a fact in this current world. Although i'm always very interested when someone other than the white population makes a scientific breakthrough.


Do not over look the Asian population of the U.S. From they population we get some of the brightest and best contributors to science and mathematics. Our best immigrants these days are the Asians and people from the sub-continent (India and Pakistan).
Back in the day, our best immigrants were from Eastern Europe. My ancestors who first came to America were from this cohort.

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