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29 Dec 2012, 9:02 pm

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So who exactly were these pyramid builders on mars?

Did they evolve on mars itsself?

Were they colonists from earth?

Or were they visitors from another star system?

And how did they survive having to breath in a two percent of earth atmosphere?


They are natural forms. Same thing happens here on Earth. Such has been pointed out several times.


Duhhhh!

Im trying to get the believers to state whatever the heck it is they believe in concrete terms.


Oh, thought you were slipping over the edge there...



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29 Dec 2012, 11:39 pm

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Duhhhh!

Im trying to get the believers to state whatever the heck it is they believe in concrete terms.

They all got psyched up and are watching "Signs".
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30 Dec 2012, 8:13 am

Fnord wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
shrox wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
So who exactly were these pyramid builders on mars?

Did they evolve on mars itsself?

Were they colonists from earth?

Or were they visitors from another star system?

And how did they survive having to breath in a two percent of earth atmosphere?


They are natural forms. Same thing happens here on Earth. Such has been pointed out several times.


Duhhhh!

Im trying to get the believers to state whatever the heck it is they believe in concrete terms.

Trust me ... it's like trying to nail Jell-O to a tree. They have no concrete beliefs, only wishful thoughts and empty fantasies.

Taking the possibility that David Flynn did believe all of this stuff, his explanations seem to go to the logic that this was the architecture of the fallen third of the angels - ie. that God/Yahweh created, along with their influences on pre-Adamic races.

If you really get a chance to look at where this leads, as I responded to naturalplastics, I really HOPE this is all an illusion, ie. it would mean an incredibly nasty/violent end to our culture by the most sadistic forces of sentience available.



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30 Dec 2012, 12:13 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
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Trust me ... it's like trying to nail Jell-O to a tree. They have no concrete beliefs, only wishful thoughts and empty fantasies.
Taking the possibility that David Flynn did believe all of this stuff, his explanations seem to go to the logic that this was the architecture of the fallen third of the angels - ie. that God/Yahweh created, along with their influences on pre-Adamic races.

See? This is an example of what I mean: Where is the evidence that these "Angels" ever existed? Why is Mr. Flynn making something up regarding Mars that is not in the Bible?

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If you really get a chance to look at where this leads, as I responded to naturalplastics, I really HOPE this is all an illusion, ie. it would mean an incredibly nasty/violent end to our culture by the most sadistic forces of sentience available.

From the World English Dictionary:

Pareidolia (n): The imagined perception of a pattern or meaning where it does not actually exist...

Enough said?



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30 Dec 2012, 3:12 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Fnord wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
shrox wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
So who exactly were these pyramid builders on mars?

Did they evolve on mars itsself?

Were they colonists from earth?

Or were they visitors from another star system?

And how did they survive having to breath in a two percent of earth atmosphere?


They are natural forms. Same thing happens here on Earth. Such has been pointed out several times.


Duhhhh!

Im trying to get the believers to state whatever the heck it is they believe in concrete terms.

Trust me ... it's like trying to nail Jell-O to a tree. They have no concrete beliefs, only wishful thoughts and empty fantasies.

Taking the possibility that David Flynn did believe all of this stuff, his explanations seem to go to the logic that this was the architecture of the fallen third of the angels - ie. that God/Yahweh created, along with their influences on pre-Adamic races.

If you really get a chance to look at where this leads, as I responded to naturalplastics, I really HOPE this is all an illusion, ie. it would mean an incredibly nasty/violent end to our culture by the most sadistic forces of sentience available.


So... the Tooth Fairy is all too real... and is out slit our throats?
WTF are you talking about NOW?



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30 Dec 2012, 6:10 pm

If we wanted to try and run a reductive materialism vs. any kind of theism debate that would have to be another thread, and there've been enough of those around here to show that it doesn't go anywhere - ie. people rule out certain areas of research and content by feel and by reflex before even knowing how it fits together.

My own experiences might be biased to the extent of believing that there's such a thing as the occult simply because I've been there and had a lot of things happen by now that just don't boil down by reductive materialism. I can't share the veracity of those experience or boil them down into something that fits in ASCII because its experience. People who want to leave the reductive materialism box have to find their way out of it with a lot of sincere investigation to test and retest their status quo and they'll find that they didn't trick or delude their way out of it by cutting corners, just that it will literally fall apart on its own with enough investigation.

As for the veracity of the information in the video - he just makes compelling connections. Some of the things I don't understand - how do cultures tie the heavens to earth (for whatever perceived ritual purpose) and have it give whatever lasting effect that they desire when the planet already has a precession that will render any astrological monuments built invalid within another 2000 years and the signs have displaced each other. I'm still not sure whether he means that it was other races - other than human but connected to our story - rather than angels, just like I'd never thought of such things (ie. the later) having such a human form as living on planets.

Part of the rigor that comes up, and I'm sure why so many people won't touch anything outside the reductive materialist box, the world gets really complex, confusing, as does the content, there's a lot of slush that you have to slog through to find anything solid. Still, I'm more than happy sifting through it, distilling it, cooking it down, and part of that is because I want to figure out what's going on and my confinement to the reductive materialist box has come and gone, ie. there's really no way to go back. That can cause you to occasionally voyage off and quite often find yourself examining and studying the mind-bending and improbable - that's just part of what comes with the territory.

If topics that are exotic to societal common concensus is offensive I'm not sure what to do about that aside from just post more of it and help you guys loosen up. I'll at least try to post things that are falsifiable (such as this) which people are free to examine and come to their own conclusions. I get that we didn't have much of a conversation on this but I also get that people are rusted into a bit of a intellectual rigor-mortis as it stands right now and there are plenty of times in history where we could have shaved off the possibility of the world being round or revolving around the sun with Occam's razor. I'm not trying to diss anyone's outlook, and I take some humility in realizing that I'm posting something most people would consider by reflex tinfoil lunacy. Its tinfoil lunacy with a method though, for sure, and there's a very good chance that at least on earth he's seeing some very real tinfoil cultural lunacy (possibly of the Illuminated variety) that isn't well known on public terms.



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31 Dec 2012, 9:45 am

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
If we wanted to try and run a reductive materialism vs. any kind of theism debate that would have to be another thread, and there've been enough of those around here to show that it doesn't go anywhere - ie. people rule out certain areas of research and content by feel and by reflex before even knowing how it fits together.

My own experiences might be biased to the extent of believing that there's such a thing as the occult simply because I've been there and had a lot of things happen by now that just don't boil down by reductive materialism


That means there is more and better science to be done. Thank the gods for that. I would hate see the world completely known with no possibility of surprises.

Science has all the answers. However we don't (yet) have all the questions. I hope we never do. Let there always be another Problem to be solved.

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31 Dec 2012, 10:53 am

That also tends to mean that we'll always be chasing an end so long as we're existent in a time-sequence of events. That statement might seem a little scrabbled against what you're talking about and probably what your general scope of thought tends toward on the topic but I can see why when people talk about such other 'inner' places that time is often ditched as an arbitrary marker, much like film queues in movies don't govern our lives unless we choose to explore a movie from start to finish. Subordination to cause and effect renders that there's a possible perfection at the end and, should we hit that marker, what then...



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03 Jan 2013, 1:11 pm

Another example of the pyramid natural form.

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/eerie-luna ... 55516.html

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03 Jan 2013, 2:00 pm

Wow!

Queens New York looks more unearthly than does the Cydonian Plain on Mars!



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03 Jan 2013, 4:01 pm

shrox wrote:
Another example of the pyramid natural form.

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/eerie-luna ... 55516.html

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I've seen that too. The better question - do they have astrological ground geometry in relationship to each other? Are there sharp pentagonal pyramids in the mix?

Nature can make simple geometry but 'sacred' geometry and attempt to tether astrology to the terrestrial is not the behavior of nature. Nature can make dunes but it won't shape them into the likeness of a palm tree or an Absolut bottle.



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03 Jan 2013, 4:30 pm

There is a difference between a cone and a pyramid.



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03 Jan 2013, 4:36 pm

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There is a difference between a cone and a pyramid.

Over time the cone degrades into a three sided pyramid.

Just accept it, the three sided pyramid is a natural shape.



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04 Jan 2013, 6:37 pm

shrox wrote:
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There is a difference between a cone and a pyramid.

Over time the cone degrades into a three sided pyramid.

Just accept it, the three sided pyramid is a natural shape.

To put your aerodynamics and meteorology expertise to use, what's your geological theory on pentagonal structures?

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04 Jan 2013, 6:49 pm

A triangle based pyramid is easier to add on to.



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04 Jan 2013, 7:02 pm

Anyway in the future pyramids will be used to house all of the dead and not just the Pharaoh's or Kings.