GE/GMO Industry: Corporate Hijacking of Food and Agriculture

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01 Jan 2013, 7:00 pm

Sure they do. That's where the whole anti-GMO movement seems to have started.

I wouldn't mind having GMO-based foods labelled as such in the USofA, as long as the label didn't look anything like this label from the Federal Republic of Germany:

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If there is any real "Biohazard" associated with GMO foods, then let those who claim so provide the proof.



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01 Jan 2013, 8:35 pm

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If there is any real "Biohazard" associated with GMO foods, then let those who claim so provide the proof.


The genetically modified agricultural products are safe to eat. In fact agricultural products we normally consume are hybrids and crosses which means they are genetic modification of the original wild strains.

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01 Jan 2013, 10:20 pm

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Bottom line. No health risk from GMO foods compared to foods made from conventional crops.

That's a strong opinion. After looking over the article, I have an opinion of my own.

The main reason why the FDA is not going to say "GMO" foods are bad or harmful is the former CEO of Monsanto is the head of the FDA.
Monsanto actually pays universities to prove that no link between GMO foods and abnormalities exist.




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01 Jan 2013, 10:26 pm

They also said DDT ,malthion,asbestos,and 2,4-D and 2-4-5 T were safe.They lie.
Monsanto is suing small farmers for patent infringement.
Take the case of farmer Percy Schmeiser,in 1997 Schmeiser's canola crop was contaminated by Monsanto's modified Roundup Ready Canola.When he replanted his saved seed as he had done for years Monsanto demands that he pay $15.00 an acre for using their technology without a license.

Jeffrey M.Smith is the Executive Director of the Institute for Responsible Technology and has a book out called Seeds of Deception and Genetic Roulette.

The following is an excerpt from an article in the Heirloom Gardner,summer2012:

"In a private January 2011 letter to USDA Secretary Vilsack,Roundup expert Don Huber.Phd,warned that's team of scientists had identified high concentrations of a new type of ultra-microscopic organism in Round-up treated crops.It was closely associated with both plant disease and animal infertility and miscarriages.This letter was later leaked to the Internet.

There is no proof that it's not dangerous.
Round-up ready plants are made to survive heavy doses of herbicide,so they can spray more chemicals not less.
In the same article the danger of super weeds is discussed,they have invaded around 11 million acres in the U.S.They have outsmarted Monsanto and are surviving.Sudden Death
Syndrome in soy and Goss's blight in corn are linked to over use of Round-up.Scientists
have identified more than forty new plant diseases that are on the rise in the U.S.
Insects are now developing resistance to the Bt in the altered corn and cotton.
Remember the old margarine commercial "It's not nice to fool mother nature"?

Well,that's true.



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01 Jan 2013, 11:18 pm

NAKnight wrote:
The main reason why the FDA is not going to say "GMO" foods are bad or harmful is the former CEO of Monsanto is the head of the FDA.
Monsanto actually pays universities to prove that no link between GMO foods and abnormalities exist.

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I am starting to think I could replace myself with a bot that finds specific patterns in each thread and then posts the same 5 different precoded images.


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02 Jan 2013, 11:59 am

NAKnight wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
Bottom line. No health risk from GMO foods compared to foods made from conventional crops.

That's a strong opinion. After looking over the article, I have an opinion of my own.

The main reason why the FDA is not going to say "GMO" foods are bad or harmful is the former CEO of Monsanto is the head of the FDA.
Monsanto actually pays universities to prove that no link between GMO foods and abnormalities exist.




Best Regards,

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In other words, the lack of evidence that genetically modified crops are harmful is clear proof that they are harmful. The Illuminati want us to think GM foods are harmless.

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06 Jan 2013, 3:14 am

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I've tried both traditional and "Organic" methods, and I've had better results with traditional ones. "Organic" farming is too labor-intensive for the meager results, so I see no reason to break my back for a couple of bushels of twisted, spotted veggies, when with some careful fertilizer and pesticide use, I can get at least twice the yield with more robust crops.

GMOs are the way to go!


It truly is disturbing that the U.S. is so far gone in GMO agriculture that many people living in the country have started to differentiate between "traditional" and "organic" methods in such a way that the "organic" side is where the only non-GMO food can be found. Organic, or ecological (which is the term I prefer, as it makes more sense, and cannot be mistaken to be connected to the pseudo-religion pezar mentions), in the EU merely means food produced in a more sustainable way. Traditional, meanwhile, generally means foods that are allowed to be exposed to some pesticides and synthetic fertilizers. After the findings of Arpad Pusztai, GMO has become very rare in the EU and other parts of Europe, as food for humans, and hopefully will continue to be after the GMO proponent and former European Commissioner for Health and Consumer Policy, John Dalli, had to resign, in October, on corruption charges. One can only hope that Tonio Borg is more fit for the job, but at least I doubt it can get any worse, since Dalli was the one to start to ease up for the bioengineering industry, in the EU.


Fnord wrote:
If there is any real "Biohazard" associated with GMO foods, then let those who claim so provide the proof.


Think how absurd it would be if this same statement would be used for drugs produced by the pharmaceutical industry. Yet, in regards to untested drugs being let out on the market, they do not reproduce, while GMO's either can reproduce or will cross-pollinate. In other words, considering the generally far more stringent testing of pharmaceutical drugs, it is far more accepted to let out a form of drugs that will replicate by their own, while pharmaceutical drugs will not do this. Do you agree that the testing standards of pharmaceutical drugs should be lowered, with the evidence of the danger of them being put on patients, instead? Perhaps even for patients that have been put in psych wards, and in such a scenario are given untested psych drugs? If you do not agree to this, then why not? It seems to go rather well with your philosophy, considering that people will be held hostage under GMO foods, in the future, if it continues on the path of it becoming more and more common, with it eventually being required to eat, if you *want* to eat - much like in the case of a committed person being used as a human testing subject for an untested pharmaceutical drug that the manufacturer "promises" is safe.

As for the proof. There already is more than enough proof that GMO's are unsafe, but you are choosing to ignore it. This also is why GMO's are so controversial in the Europe.



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06 Jan 2013, 5:35 am

NAKnight wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
Bottom line. No health risk from GMO foods compared to foods made from conventional crops.

That's a strong opinion. After looking over the article, I have an opinion of my own.

The main reason why the FDA is not going to say "GMO" foods are bad or harmful is the former CEO of Monsanto is the head of the FDA.
Monsanto actually pays universities to prove that no link between GMO foods and abnormalities exist.




Best Regards,

Jake

The AAAS is *NOT* the FDA.
There is no evidence that GMO crops are dangerous to eat.

However, *some* GMO crops (ie, 'roundup-ready') absolutely increase pesticide use and are possibly contributors in the evolution of 'superweeds' that are a growing agricultural problem, and some GMOs (engineered to contain BT toxin) do harm non-pest lepidopteran species with pollen drift.



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06 Jan 2013, 12:17 pm

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This also is why GMO's are so controversial in the Europe.

No, GM food is controversial in Europe because most people are clueless and easily manipulated.

See also: the MMR vaccine, the Alternative Vote, "E numbers"



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06 Jan 2013, 12:38 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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In other words, the lack of evidence that genetically modified crops are harmful is clear proof that they are harmful. The Illuminati want us to think GM foods are harmless.

ruveyn


Control the food, control the people.


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06 Jan 2013, 12:53 pm

So how come organic farmers use synthetic oil in their tractors?



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17 Jan 2013, 11:33 am

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The European Union on Tuesday took the debate about genetically modified crops to the public with a survey asking citizens to share their thoughts on organic farming. The bloc's 500 million consumers are invited to complete an anonymous online questionnaire on the European Commission's Agriculture and Rural Development website (http://ec.europa.eu/agriculture/consult ... 013_en.htm). The consultation, which ends on April 10, is part of a review of European policy on organic agriculture. Noting that genetically modified organisms (GMOs) are considered incompatible with organic farming, the survey asks participants whether they specifically buy organic products because they are "GMO-free" and whether consumers would put up with higher prices if it meant the accidental low-level presence of GMO in organic products was clearly labelled.
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Source: http://mobile.france24.com/en/20130116- ... te-gm-food

http://ec.europa.eu/agriculture/consult ... 013_en.htm



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17 Jan 2013, 11:42 pm

The danger of this corporate practice and genetic tinkering is and will cause a worldwide starvation event.

The seeds are gene-eered to work only with high tech, energy intensive to produce, oil-based products. Genes don't remain in one place, they can actually 'jump' to other plants.

This is what farmers are suffering from if they resist using monsanto products: at random times their natural crops are sampled to make sure they are not GMO plants... and what happens is the natural farmer's field gets contaminated by a neighboring GMO farmer's field and voila.. he gets sued to bankruptcy by the GMO company for patent infringement.

In any case, the result quickly is that all fields are GMO.

What will happen when oil becomes not so abundant? Forget about fuel for your cars... the real and significant danger is the food supply. All these GMO fields will not grow. Add to that, an oil shortage interrupts fuel supply which is needed for machinery (lubricants, fuel) that plants, harvests and processes the food...and then for the ships/trucks/planes that distribute it. An oil shortage stops this chain dead on its tracks at all levels.

It is estimated that when oil becomes scarce enough to begin to affect the food supply it will be a matter of a year or two before mass starvation kicks in. Worldwide. The planet cannot sustain more than 2 billion people using non-industrial/intensive agricultural methods and those figures are estimated from the days we still used sailing ships to transport goods. Today it would be millions less since the transportation system would collapse and all you would be able to eat is whatever grows in your local area (mid-range trade networks, even city to city would be hard to maintain....remember we no longer have THAT many horses to pull stuff around).

Food for thought :P



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18 Jan 2013, 12:10 am

Is there anything not subjected to corporate hijacking?



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28 Jan 2013, 12:12 am

Never was a word on the regular news about this, of course. :roll: f**k the EU!! :evil:

Link (working links in original article):
www.nyrnaturalnews.com/food/2012/12/eu- ... lic-funds/

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Natural Health News — Monsanto, the world’s most prominent promoters of GMO crops worldwide, is set to receive $40 million (£25 million) of public financial support via the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development (EBRD).

The EBRD has provisionally approved this massive financial guarantee to cover Monsanto in case farmers and other large-scale customers cannot pay for seeds or agrochemical products they committed to buy from the corporation. The support is to be offered by the EBRD for contracts made by Monsanto with medium and large farmers and distributors in Bulgaria, Hungary, Russia, Serbia, Turkey, and Ukraine.

US corporation Monsanto is the world’s largest seed producer, the fourth largest agrochemical company worldwide and a Fortune 500 company.

Your right to choose what you eat eroding

The Central and Eastern Europe Bankwatch, a European NGO that monitors the activities of international financial institutions, has been highly critical of the proposal, asking, not unreasonably why a company that can afford to throw millions at depriving people of the right to choose what they eat deserves backing with public development money.
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29 Jan 2013, 10:12 am

Applaud EU efforts to make food less expensive.

Team "naturalistic fallacy" deserved to lose California's Prop 37 out of karma. They mishandled the whole deal terribly and based their argument not on "a right to know" but on a bogus pseudo-scientific study that turned out to be a bunch of lies.


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