autism is why it's impossible to believe in God

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I have never read of any mainstream religion forbidding sharing of wealth, though in practice it only ever seems to happen among their members, if not in the form of communism, then socialism or some form of egalitarianism. I have heard of communist regimes forbidding religion.

The LDS church at one time experimented with a form of socialism.

However most religions don't promote much sharing of wealth outside their faiths. The Catholic Church has probably done the most humanitarian work, if not economic sharing, outside its faith in recent history, but also at one time or another forced people into converting, sometimes with the threat of death. As I understand it under Islam one is not supposed to deny aid to anyone (Muslim or not) in need who asks for it. But that doesn't translate as socialism, only as aid to the needy.

The ancient church actually practiced a form of communism in which all land and property were held in common and which the members did not consider any property to be their own. Church members would sell their houses and land and lay the money at the feet of the apostles and the proceeds would be given according to the needs of the community.

It would be like 100 percent tithing. Naysayers say that one could not live if you gave everything away but of course the tithe would be redistributed according to need so there was a good chance your standard of living would go up.

Naysayers also say that communism is demonic because communism of property would ultimately lead to communism of persons which would mean you would have to share your wife.

This.

I'm sorry, AspieOtaku, but this YouTube video is rubbish. Please educate yourself about Egyptian/Greek/Roman/Norse/Hindu/Buddhist/etc. stories before you accept whatever garbage they spout in the video.

Besides...AspieOtaku, what ''Christians'' did you ever hear say that the world will end in 2012?

Yes, I think someone needs to review the myth of Horus. There are similarities between the story of Jesus and the myth of Osiris/Horus, as well as Mithra and others. But they're only similarities, not exact details, and pinning the date December 25th on the birth of Horus is deliberately deceptive, IMO. (It mightn't be that off-base with Mithra, mind you.) Also, Osiris wasn't crucified, he was dismembered. Virgin birth is a common theme in many myths, because it represents a pure state of being from which the god is believed to spring. But that's not proof of anything either - that Jesus existed or not.

So yeah, BS. But there is no "proof" that Jesus was a real individual or wasn't, or that Moses was or wasn't. Or the Buddha was or wasn't. Religion isn't about proof anyway, is it? Unless you're a fundamentalist.

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It's about your faith. Spirituality is about peace.

Just asking...have you ever heard of ''The Annals'' by Tacitus?

The ones that hold up signs and shout through their speaker horns thumping their Bible's that hang out at the college campus from time to time protesting abortion, evolution, and homosexuality.They hand out these stupid biblical pamphlets on revelations etc.

If they specifically said something along the lines of, ''Repent, all ye who walk about without Christ! He will return on Dec. 21 2012!'' then they say they are Christians, but they're not truly christians.

On the other hand, if they're not giving a specific date,then they're doing something right. (I'm not saying that they are Christians, just that they are paying attention to at LEAST what Jesus said.)

Crud, I forgot to quote AspieOtaku...

I suppose Isaiah would be one of the first place to start if you're looking at figuring out prophecies of Jesus (or if your Jewish the messiah to come).

Christians on 2012? They might have perceived it as the occult awakening and hence had strong concerns that we'd be seeing the start of tribulation between 2013 and 2014. You also have the St. Malachy Prophecy Of The Popes which has been uncannily accurate past its original 1595 publication and it claims Benedict XVI is the second to last pope and that as soon as 'Peter The Roman' comes to power (which a lot of people suspect will be Tarcisio Bertone) the prophecy claims that this will be the 'black pope' who props up the antichrist. You then have the Vatican having meetings on the existence of extraterrestials and what that will mean to theology. The more research people have done into the character of ET's and abduction the more suspect the identity of such 'aliens' has become.

For the people who think that the new age ascension and the predictions of half the Sci-Fi channel dropping in to pay us a visit to bring in the 6's and end-time religion under one world government; there's a lot in the way of dog whistles out there right now to feed such notions. That's not guaranteeing its true, but its enough correlation to make it easy to see where they're coming from.

autism certainly undermines my ability to have a relationship with a god being, i find it such an abstract concept. Where is god, what is he made of and if he exists why cant we physically go to to him without dying? These sorts of questions form my jigsaw of understanding. The ability to understand and the ability to believe are irreconcilable to me.

It doesnt help that the old testament is full of whimsicle and impossible tales like the Garden of Eden and Noah's ark. It would be impossible for one man to build such a large ship in such a small time and even if he'd manage to assemble the animals the carnvores wouldve eaten the herbivores.

by right of baptism i am LDS which teaches that at the day of judgement, our bodies will rise from the grave, free from 'imperfection'. Does this mean i will lose my autism? If so will i still truly be me?

No I hadn't, but just looked them up. Interesting. I'd still like to read the Meditations of Marcus Aurelius as well. Time permitting. Thanks for the tip.

Because in Book 15, Chapter 44, he mentions Jesus. (Though he is called Christus in this case. Just search a few sentences down.)

And what is imperfection? What's the difference between an imperfection and something that's just different than the norm? A lot of things that are considered imperfect are survival mechanisms, without which we wouldn't be here. It gets so hard to believe in religion when it leaves so much unanswered.

I think the most immediate criteria for 'imperfection' would be anything that stops you from being maximally you. Past that if there are physical compulsions that push you to sin like water sends you to the urinal there would likely be some tweaking of appetites but I'd think those two things would be catch-all and tweaking appetites would be redundant if the adjustment is to make you more maximally you anyway.

Yes, correlation is not causation. But even the virgin birth part is something you'll hardly spot in any of the other mythologies.

A virgin birth is supposedly when someone is born through a woman who is still a virgin.



There's no proof for any historical character really. But one can count on Occam's razor to demonstrate that it is more likely that Jesus existed than that he did not. Of course, I'm referring to a normal human Jesus here. The supernatural exaggerated version is most likely just fictional.