Margaret Thatcher has died

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Those 'sick' people are among the millions whose lives were ruined as a result of her vile policies and the revolting indifference she displayed to them.

Not to mention she was a cheerleader for war that glorified in the bloody furtherance of her reactionary agenda.
Her legacy of snobbery, greed, ignorance and one upmanship still cripples working class areas across British society today.

To quote the English poet Shelley
“I met murder on the way— / he had a mask like Castlereagh”.

The hypocrisy is, she will be given a lavish ceremonial funeral (one step below a state funeral only afforded to royalty) paid for by the taxpaying workers she held in so much contempt, toasted by her tory sycophants like David Cameron.

Last edited by thomas81 on 08 Apr 2013, 3:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.

What war was that?

I generally thought that invading part of another country's national territory that isn't yours in order to colonise and conquer it is an act of war, but to be honest you're beyond reason.

I'd support British intervention in any British territory if they were being attacked. I would expect any other country to do the same to defend itself.

If Argentina had invaded part of another country in South America, you wouldn't be backing the Argentinians. Your demented hatred of Britain is the sole guiding force - if it hurts Britain or completely innocent people who simply happen to be British and want to be left in peace, it must be good. It's quite sad and pathetic.



Have they got a street party organised in West Belfast yet? You wouldn't want to miss that for the world.

If someone inspires hatred, their death will likely be welcomed by those who feel that hatred.

You imply that by opposing the war I am 'backing the Argentines'. Who I was 'backing' was never the point. The Malvinas/Falklands are a pissy bit of rock that were never worth the thousand lives or so that were lost in the name of backward rhetoric in fighting over a inconsequential imperialist anomaly. Not to mention that the tragedy still poisons to this day what would have otherwise have been amicable relations with Argentina.

The only guiding force was Thatchers pathological hatred of the Soviet Union and Communism, fuelled and encouraged by an insane failed actor come president with fantasises of orbiting space lasers. In spite of the fact that by the time she came to power, The Soviet Union was beginning to wind down with its reforms anyway.

Actually Thatcher had an underlying and irrational hatred of all progressive ideas, even the ones at home when she organised scab unions to undermine the bargaining power of striking miners trying to fight for better conditions. Or callously allowing Irish Republican prisoners to commit suicide by starvation rather than granting them political prisoner status.


I dare say they do, sadly I will have to pass this time.

Oh, by the way I heard on the grapevine that Thatchers final wish was to be cremated.

Unfortunately, there is no coal available to burn her.

I don't get it. I never understood what crocodile years meant, though.

Point for her, progressive idea and what it is?
You mean political correctness bull s**t:-)
I even understood her, and as for those members of the IRA were terrorists after all, they not ended in prison for innocence. If she had agreed to the request of one prisoner, they would be another demand, solo accommodation, prison cell etc.

Inmate threatens to commit suicide, and so what? It his / her life, and tax payer money wold be saved:-)

I had milk in primary school in the 1990s. The kids who's parents were on benefits got it free of charge and the parents who worked had to pay for it.



The Falklands War was actually fought over oil reserves discovered during the 1970s. Few people at the time knew this but now it is quite common knowledge.



I dispute that one. I think that Thatcher had a radical streak to her that was uncommon within the Conservative ranks.

There are so many people of my age who regard what Thatcher did to this country with utter loathing. The problems she created are still with us today: no jobs for life, reduced power of the trade unions, the social unrest between different classes of people, and little community spirit due to her famous and appalling sentence, "There is no such thing as society"; and a European situation where Britain is forever 'out there', isolated, due to Thatcher's suspicion of the European project. Many of these trends have gone so far they can't be reversed. It is so hard to forgive Thatcher for me, because what she did was really quite personal; none of what succeeding Prime Ministers have done, had this personal impact on me.

I feel sad that she has died without so much as a word of apology to the people whose lives have now been irrevocably altered for the worst. Today I think should be a day to ponder the value of human life, and to say that everyone matters, not just those who are rich.

I agree with you, the things Thatcher did to my city Liverpool in the 80s and 90s just goes to show how she valued human life. As a supporter of Liverpool football club (Everton fans and possibly other football supporters might join on this) I have 96 reasons why due to role her in the Hillsborough disaster not to mourn her lose.

Today is wonderful day on Merseyside!!

Last edited by Utnapishtim on 08 Apr 2013, 5:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Obviously you've got no understanding of the Northern Ireland context, let alone what was happening during the darker days of the 70's and early 80's.

The IRA/INLA didn't blow up cars and kill soldiers because they enjoyed it. They did it because of a gerrymandering political system that ensured the status quo remained in the Unionist favour. They did it because nationalist homes were only being granted one vote per household. (Unionist households got one vote per resident). Also because protestants were being given preferential treatment when it came to housing and jobs. Thatchers policies were only serving to exacerbate nationalist alienation and hard feeling.

You can't take the imprisoned paramilitaries of either the republican or loyalist side and compare them to prisoners in somewhere like America or England. It is wholly different semantics.

and the ballymurphy estate, bogside and South Armagh.

Tiocfaidh ár lá!

Yep have you hear about the parties going in Glasgow and in Brixton?

Morrissey has pretty much summed it up well

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ ... c-20130408

Disso strongholds.

I think it's high time you go over there to do some 'understanding'.

Meanwhile, I'd be very surprised if more than a thousand people tops indulged in that diseasee behaviour. Most decent folk - even though they might have hated her in office - have more dignity than to celebrate a politician's death.

I wouldn't have celebrated Ted Heath's death. Or Tony Blair's. Or George Galloway's.

The more civilised way of behaving is simply to say that it doesn't affect you.

A frail old woman's death is an irrelevance.

What, you mean in the same way that its more civilised not to fire, rather than destroying a retreating ship that was already outside the falklands exclusion zone before giving a thumbs up to callous headlines to the effect of 'GOTCHA' on the front cover of the following days redtop newspapers?

I don't live in the UK, and I am well aware her legacy is controversal.

Over on this side of the pond, she was one of the generation, along with Helmut Kohl and Reagan, who effectively won the Cold War, which made the world far safer, and allowed the great advances of the last 20 years.

She, even more so than Reagan, was probably one of the practical leaders of the conservative reaction to the 1960s and 1970s, and possibly it's leading member.

Even more than Churchill, I recognize she had a bad hand to play, economically. Unlike Churchill, she also did'nt have a background at 11 Downing, or Reagan's economics background.