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13 Apr 2013, 11:49 pm

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The only thing unique to our times in your video is the existence of video technology itsself.

It doesnt portray anything that didnt happen in every era for the last 2000 years: corruption, immoralty, natural disasters, wars, mass murders, floods, tsunamies, famines, to some degree- even climate change.

They just didnt have video footage of it.

So...has every era for the last 2000 years been "the End Times"?


Last time I checked, there were a few other signs than just doom and such. Such as overall knowledge increasing, and Christianity spreading throughout the Earth, an ever increasing amount of earthquakes, and increasing amounts of false prophets.

Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."

Matthew 24:24 "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. "

Luke 21:11 "And great earthquakes shall be in diverse places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven."

Daniel 12:4 "But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased."



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14 Apr 2013, 2:07 am

One can argue that mankind may come to end end soon, but this doesn't mean the world is coming to an end anytime soon.

It also doesn't mean that, therefore, we should ignore all the false prophecies of the WatchTower and forget that other groups (not related to JWs) have also predicted the same things.



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14 Apr 2013, 4:51 am

I belive we are in the last days Kxmode, so if we want to survive the coming tribulations and gain everlasting life, it is important we do exactly what Jesus says right?, and he should certainly be believed rather than mere men like the Pope and other religious leaders right?

So this is what Jesus said we must do in John Chapter 6, likely you have never read this:-

53 Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55 For My flesh is food indeed,[h] and My blood is drink indeed. 56 He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him. 57 As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me. 58 This is the bread which came down from heaven—not as your fathers ate the manna, and are dead. He who eats this bread will live forever.”

Did you notice that first line Kxmode?, unless you eat Jesus flesh (Memorial Bread) and drink his blood, (memorial wine), you will not get everlasting life.

It will be a shame for you to be so sincere in your beliefs but not to be rewarded with life because every year on Nissan 14 Jesus offered you his Flesh to eat and his blood to drink and you said, "No thank you Jesus, I would rather rest my hopes for salvation on what those men who think Leviathan is a Steam engine tell me to believe than on you Jesus who didn't even know in advance that you would return in 1914 whilst us mere mortals did!"



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14 Apr 2013, 11:38 am

Bezeone wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
The only thing unique to our times in your video is the existence of video technology itsself.

It doesnt portray anything that didnt happen in every era for the last 2000 years: corruption, immoralty, natural disasters, wars, mass murders, floods, tsunamies, famines, to some degree- even climate change.

They just didnt have video footage of it.

So...has every era for the last 2000 years been "the End Times"?


Last time I checked, there were a few other signs than just doom and such. Such as overall knowledge increasing, and Christianity spreading throughout the Earth, an ever increasing amount of earthquakes, and increasing amounts of false prophets.

Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."

Matthew 24:24 "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. "

Luke 21:11 "And great earthquakes shall be in diverse places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven."

Daniel 12:4 "But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased."

Matthew 24:36 "However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows."



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14 Apr 2013, 1:43 pm

Yes, no one knows EXACTLY the date, but the bible says...



Luke 21:28 ''And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draws near.''



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15 Apr 2013, 9:28 am

These things have been "coming to pass" since well before John wrote them down.

Either the "end times" are a myth, or we have been living in the "end times" since the glaciers melted 12,000 years ago.

Believing in myths allows the comfort of having an opinion without the discomfort of having to think.

Do you believe that the Bible is the complete, self-supporting and inerrant Word of God?



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15 Apr 2013, 5:52 pm

So... it was possible to preach Christianity to the world before Jesus' death?

Anyway, never have the world seen so many new things within 200 years that people milleniums ago could not conjure! A journey on the sea for milleniums can easily take up months, whereas now, it can take only a few days or a week. (Or take an airplane for an even shorter time.) Also, with this technology, the possibility of preaching Christianity all over the world becomes a much more realistic goal. (Does this mean everyone will be saved? No.)

Besides...according to Wikipedia, (Yes, I know, but no other site when I looked up major discoveries in science had a whole timeline.) more discoveries were made since the 19th century than the rest of the milleniums altogether.

By the way, what happened to kxmode? Did he just ditch this topic?



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15 Apr 2013, 6:24 pm

Bezeone wrote:
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These things have been "coming to pass" since well before John wrote them down. Either the "end times" are a myth, or we have been living in the "end times" since the glaciers melted 12,000 years ago. Believing in myths allows the comfort of having an opinion without the discomfort of having to think. Do you believe that the Bible is the complete, self-supporting and inerrant Word of God?
So... it was possible to preach Christianity to the world before Jesus' death?

No. The point is that all of the so-called "prophesies" written by John had been trending for millenia before he was even born. It may be safe to say that John just saw what was already going on, and assumed that it would all continue to do so - a common trick among professional "psychics", as well.

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Anyway, never have the world seen so many new things within 200 years that people milleniums ago could not conjure! A journey on the sea for milleniums can easily take up months, whereas now, it can take only a few days or a week. (Or take an airplane for an even shorter time.) Also, with this technology, the possibility of preaching Christianity all over the world becomes a much more realistic goal. (Does this mean everyone will be saved? No.) Besides...according to Wikipedia, (Yes, I know, but no other site when I looked up major discoveries in science had a whole timeline.) more discoveries were made since the 19th century than the rest of the milleniums altogether.

"Increase in Knowledge" is also an easily observable trend.

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By the way, what happened to kxmode? Did he just ditch this topic?

Matthew 24:24 "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."

Whenever someone points out how WRONG previous "prophesies" have been, some people seem to disappear for a few weeks, only to come back with more "evidence" that the world is about to end.

kxmode will be back.


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17 Apr 2013, 6:35 pm

Ah, though, it does seem just amazing how earthquakes have became VERY frequent lately, (whether weak or strong.) That...and those mass animal deaths....

"Hear the word of the LORD, ye children of Israel: for the LORD hath a controversy with the inhabitants of the land, because there is no truth, nor mercy, nor knowledge of God in the land. By swearing, and lying, and killing, and stealing, and committing adultery, they break out, and blood toucheth blood. Therefore shall the land mourn, and every one that dwelleth therein shall languish, with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of heaven; yea, the fishes of the sea also shall be taken away." -Hosea 4:1-3


Another main reason as to why Christians believe this is the end times is because a good number believe the RFID chips would be use as the Mark of the Beast. (I don't believe in that, though...it will help the ''Beast.'')

So...yeah. I personally think we certainly don't have that much time...but time itself will prove it, right?



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17 Apr 2013, 9:45 pm

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Just because some 2000+ year old book says something, doesn't make it so.

The same book says the earth was made in six days, is 5773 years old and Rosh Hashanah Is Adam's birthday.

However, geological evidence indicates that the earth is billions of years old.

And of course the old time religious wingnuts predicted 'scoffers'. There have always been scoffers. We scoffers use reason, logic, empirical evidence and science, not faith based on hearsay just because some guy who dresses funny says so.


The Bible says the earth was made in six yoms. While "yom" can be translated as "day", it is my understanding that a more accurate translation would be "long period of time". After all, when the creation began, there was no sun, no moon, and not even any distinction between light and dark. What then would be a "day"?



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17 Apr 2013, 11:22 pm

Light was created on the first day in Genesis. And it's this light and absence of light (evening) that marked the first day.

Also, one of the Ten Commandments in Exodus reveal that it was to be taken literally, and not to be understood in accordance with modern scientific understanding.

Plus, the flying animals didn't all appear before land animals, whereas in the Bible they do..



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17 Apr 2013, 11:24 pm

Why do you believe that what the Bible says is true?


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17 Apr 2013, 11:40 pm

Human evolution is so complex, we have more to learn about ourselves than we already know, I’m sure we haven’t come this far just to have it all end soon.

What is faith and belief anyway, are they not instinct’s, don’t other animals share faith and belief as part of their being?

A cat won’t cross the road if it believes there is danger, it has faith in its own judgement, if not we would see squashed cats littering our roads everywhere.



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18 Apr 2013, 9:42 am

Rudywalsh wrote:
Human evolution is so complex, we have more to learn about ourselves than we already know, I’m sure we haven’t come this far just to have it all end soon.

Tell that to Kim Jung Un and the guy that bombed the Boston Marathon.

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What is faith and belief anyway, are they not instinct’s, don’t other animals share faith and belief as part of their being?

Faith is the belief in unprovable and unproven concepts. Knowledge is the belief in provable and proven things. Instinct is unconscious processing of subliminal sensory data. Animals don't believe, they react to stimuli.

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A cat won’t cross the road if it believes there is danger, it has faith in its own judgement, if not we would see squashed cats littering our roads everywhere.

Obviously, you don't live in the Los Angeles area or near a freeway; or if you do, you don't get out much.