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01 Aug 2013, 3:46 pm

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/\ Yes, but the left tends to turn a blind eye to the stupidity of Israel's enemies and focus solely on whatever Israel does.


Israel proves that capitalism works. After all, many countries in the Middle East are adherants of Arab socialism, which is heavily based on the Soviet economy.



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01 Aug 2013, 5:38 pm

You get annoyed by all those "Keep Right" signs in the USA, but feel strangely comforted by the "Keep Left" signs in Australia.


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01 Aug 2013, 5:41 pm

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You get annoyed by all those "Keep Right" signs in the USA, but feel strangely comforted by the "Keep Left" signs in Australia.
In the UK, we "Keep Left" but "Give Way To The Right", which is disturbingly accurate.



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01 Aug 2013, 6:11 pm

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Israel proves that capitalism works. After all, many countries in the Middle East are adherants of Arab socialism, which is heavily based on the Soviet economy.


Israel is in a unique situation, the state's origins, a unified national perspective overriding political differences and a population experiencing an almost constant state of war driving technological development, these are not seen in any other capitalist society that I know of. Another important consideration, a large part of the country's agricultural items and a portion of it's industrial sector is produced by collective communities.



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01 Aug 2013, 7:51 pm

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01 Aug 2013, 7:59 pm

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You believe it's okay for MSNBC to be biased but not Fox.


Aren't you guys supposed to be wringing your hands about listener-supported radio and television? Not many people watch MSNBC, which is owned by a wealthy corporation.



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01 Aug 2013, 8:02 pm

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You believe that healthcare is a right and not a service.


I haven't heard the Conservatives whining about Obamacare in quite some time. Seriously, not even the Faux News crowd. That must mean that its rollout is going splendidly.



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01 Aug 2013, 8:31 pm

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You believe that healthcare is a right and not a service.


I haven't heard the Conservatives whining about Obamacare in quite some time. Seriously, not even the Faux News crowd. That must mean that its rollout is going splendidly.


That is orthogonal to the question; is health care a right or a service to be purchased?



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01 Aug 2013, 8:41 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
Raptor wrote:
You believe it's okay for MSNBC to be biased but not Fox.


Aren't you guys supposed to be wringing your hands about listener-supported radio and television? Not many people watch MSNBC, which is owned by a wealthy corporation.

I only saw MSNBC long enough, about 15 minutes, to see that they are so slanted left they’d make Karl Marx blush.

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You believe that healthcare is a right and not a service.


I haven't heard the Conservatives whining about Obamacare in quite some time. Seriously, not even the Faux News crowd. That must mean that its rollout is going splendidly.


It’s enough of a sham on its own that we don’t have to whine about it.


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01 Aug 2013, 8:43 pm

You want pigouvian taxes on soda.



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01 Aug 2013, 9:04 pm

ruveyn wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
Raptor wrote:
You believe that healthcare is a right and not a service.


I haven't heard the Conservatives whining about Obamacare in quite some time. Seriously, not even the Faux News crowd. That must mean that its rollout is going splendidly.


That is orthogonal to the question; is health care a right or a service to be purchased?


A dual system with both private and public clinics seem to be working best.



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01 Aug 2013, 9:14 pm

/\ Actually, we already have that.


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01 Aug 2013, 9:15 pm

Raptor wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
Raptor wrote:
You believe it's okay for MSNBC to be biased but not Fox.


Aren't you guys supposed to be wringing your hands about listener-supported radio and television? Not many people watch MSNBC, which is owned by a wealthy corporation.

I only saw MSNBC long enough, about 15 minutes, to see that they are so slanted left they’d make Karl Marx blush.


They are only obeying their corporate masters. You've watched about 15 minutes more than I have.

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Raptor wrote:
You believe that healthcare is a right and not a service.


I haven't heard the Conservatives whining about Obamacare in quite some time. Seriously, not even the Faux News crowd. That must mean that its rollout is going splendidly.


It’s enough of a sham on its own that we don’t have to whine about it.


I see. But why were Conservatives whining about Obamacare previously? Was Obamacare not yet a sham at that point? What are Conservatives butthurt about lately?



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01 Aug 2013, 9:49 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
Raptor wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
Raptor wrote:
You believe it's okay for MSNBC to be biased but not Fox.


Aren't you guys supposed to be wringing your hands about listener-supported radio and television? Not many people watch MSNBC, which is owned by a wealthy corporation.

I only saw MSNBC long enough, about 15 minutes, to see that they are so slanted left they’d make Karl Marx blush.


They are only obeying their corporate masters. You've watched about 15 minutes more than I have.

Yeah, right, you haven't watched MSNBC. :roll: :roll:

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ArrantPariah wrote:
Raptor wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
You believe that healthcare is a right and not a service.


I haven't heard the Conservatives whining about Obamacare in quite some time. Seriously, not even the Faux News crowd. That must mean that its rollout is going splendidly.


It’s enough of a sham on its own that we don’t have to whine about it.


I see. But why were Conservatives whining about Obamacare previously? Was Obamacare not yet a sham at that point? What are Conservatives butthurt about lately?


We were whining because Obamacare was the flavor of the month at the time.
Yes, it was a sham then as it always has been and always will be.
I don't know what we're butthurt about lately. I'll have to ask at tomorrow night's rally and book burning.


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01 Aug 2013, 10:05 pm

Hmm. Reserve currency and other factors = fed by the spoon for 50 years. So why not be a lib? IF YOU DONT HUSH, I'LL VOTE FOR OBAMA. Jk.



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01 Aug 2013, 10:46 pm

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The left's attacks on Israel are proof enough of antisemitism.


Most of the attacks on Jews I see online come from the far right (neo-nazis, "patriots," Christian Identity Movement, etc.). Since my background is Jewish, that is something I carefully pay attention to.


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