wozeree wrote:
pete1061 wrote:
For most of human history religious leaders and political leaders we're one in the same.
Religion (not spirituality) was invented to subjugate and control the minds of the masses.
It was found to be quite effective to threaten eternal damnation if one disobeys. And the subjects we're much more eager to run into battle if it was for "god".
Though modern communications (including the printing press) have made the religious method of control much less effective. These days, the rulers prefer economic methods of control.
I just have one question for you guys - have you ever been involved in any religion at all? You do know they do good, it's not all Benny Hinn buying a fleet of Rolls Royce's or priests molesting kids. I grew up around priests and nuns, most of them are standup people. I'm sure Baptists preachers and Rabbi's and most other denominations are the same. I was raised by a mentally unstable mother, much of what comfort I got in life came from the priests and nuns. You are really clueless about what your speaking about.
If you want to criticize and try to change what is wrong about a specific religion, then you should address that issue specifically, otherwise your just kind pissin in the wind so to speak (and it's getting all over yourselves).
If your idea of a great world is to free people from tyranny and wrong thinking, I think you should reconsider the idea that RELIGION IS BAD is a fact. The truth is simply that some people are bad and they find their way into positions of power in religion. But it's the same for science, education, government. Should we throw out every form of institution that can be polluted by humans?
I work for a Catholic college and I grew up in the faith, so I know the good they do.
I think that they do often spend much time trying to 'solve' problems which they helped to create, though (like poverty caused by overpopulation.) The Church would be at a loss without all those impoverished, disempowered people out there to do charity for. They sort of have an interest in this world being full of suffering, not only so they can be seen to be doing some small things to alleviate that suffering, but also so they can advertise their heaven as something for people to strive for (as opposed to making the world more like heaven.)
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