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15 Nov 2013, 1:33 pm

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Probably someone who already has 2 convictions in Louisiana ought to move to Mississippi, Arkansas or Texas.

A lot of people living in that state should move. It's not the best place to live. It really isn't. I've been there.Not impressed in the least. New Orleans is really overrated. The cemeteries are pretty neat but the rest of it is overblown and way over priced. Was not impressed with the Garden District and how difficult it is to get a cab, either. The French Quarter was alright although the hotels were all tremendously overpriced.
The daquiris from those little slurpee shops are good, that's true.
It's humid and super swampy but at night I was cold in late October. I went to an Ann Rice thing there once.
If people left and went someplace else, there'd be more room for Pelicans.


One thing really got under my skin while I was in the Garden District. I wanted to head back into the city where my hotel was and there weren't any cabs because they mostly hang out around the Quarter. The function I attended wasn't completely over yet so the cabs were not heading toward it and I was freezing it was really cold. It went from being fairly warm to what seemed like windy and cold as soon as it got dark. So I waited in the dark, shivering. A doorman at a posh restaurant nearby told me to just wait the cabs would be there soon so I did, was tired, overloaded, cold, bored and stressed out. Finally a couple of them showed up and few others were waiting, too. One of them was scooped up quick so I couldn't get it. The other one I grabbed the handle, opened the door, was about to jump in, even said, "thank God you are here because I'm freezing my ass off," and this group of about five people jumped in as soon as I opened the door. You would not believe it. It was the absolute rudest thing I have ever seen in my life because they HAD to have known I was about to get in. If you could have seen it. It would have been comical if it were not happening to me. It was as if I opened the door to the cab just so they could all pile in. They acted like I wasn't even there and I was soooo angry. Oh boy I was pissed off. They acted like I was some sort of valet. Rudest People I have ever EVER seen and I will remember that until the day I die.

So, every time I remember New Orleans or Louisiana I cannot help recalling that horrible night with those awful people who could not wait their turn and pretty much stole my cab right out from under me which I wouldn't have been so upset about if I wasn't literally freezing to death out there.



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15 Nov 2013, 2:50 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Louisiana is kind of an icky state.. It's just weird and southern down there. Just venture into the Piggly Wiggly in Lafayette and you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. Weird. People look like they've been preyed upon by Voodoo practitioners.

Weird and Southern? WTF.I used to shop in Pigs when I lived near one,I never saw any zombies in there.Im from the South,I get kind of tired of all this South bashing.
And Lafayette has a drive thru daquari store,nice.

I was born in the south and have family in Louisiana. I have earned the right to criticize.

Maybe,but please describe what weird and southern means.Do we look weird or what exactly?
Maybe the rude people who stole your cab were tourists.


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15 Nov 2013, 2:55 pm

Misslizard wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Louisiana is kind of an icky state.. It's just weird and southern down there. Just venture into the Piggly Wiggly in Lafayette and you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. Weird. People look like they've been preyed upon by Voodoo practitioners.

Weird and Southern? WTF.I used to shop in Pigs when I lived near one,I never saw any zombies in there.Im from the South,I get kind of tired of all this South bashing.
And Lafayette has a drive thru daquari store,nice.

I was born in the south and have family in Louisiana. I have earned the right to criticize.

Maybe,but please describe what weird and southern means.Do we look weird or what exactly?
Maybe the rude people who stole your cab were tourists.

I dunno if they were tourists all I know is it happened in New Orleans, not NYC or anyplace in California. New Orleans.

I just get a weird vibe from Louisiana in particular. Driving through it, I just felt uneasy. I've been through your state, didn't have the same uneasy feeling. Of course southerners don't look weird unless you count me. Technically, I am a southerner if you consider the original copy of my birth certificate is buried deep in the south.

Louisiana has a pretty rough history, that's probably why I get such a strange vibe. Driving through the middle of it was very spooky, for real.



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15 Nov 2013, 3:05 pm

I've gotten strange vibes from certain places,so I get that.The rudest encounter I ever had was in Greely Colorado,I needed to use the restroom bad and the lady in the Subway restaurant told me they had no public restroom,what a load of BS.I went next door to a Western wear store and a very nice man who could hardly speak English was kind enough to let me use theirs.For some reason she looked at me like I was scum and I have never figured out why.


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15 Nov 2013, 5:00 pm

When I was in Arizona, I encountered all sorts of troubled rest rooms and virtually anyplace out there has hot water. The entire state has a serious issue with it. Maybe because their summers are so boiling? People either didn't want tourists stopping just to use the restroom without buying or the stores had obnoxious signs all over the restroom reminding everyone to "be ladies" and keep the restroom clean. Kind of demeaning imo. The best restrooms I found were in those Pilot travel shops and no bad vibes when stopping to use them.



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15 Nov 2013, 8:04 pm

This trend is starting to reverse itself. California has a similar law to Louisiana's in that they have a "three strikes" law (three felonies and you get life, I think). This has led to severe capacity problems for their prisons. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe they are under court order to reduce their prison populations. These prisons are just too overcrowded, and more importantly, there just isn't the funds to operate them anymore. Especially since so many people arrested in the 1970s and 1980s are starting to require medical care.



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16 Nov 2013, 7:05 am

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You friends in North Korea, a communist country (so you should love it to pieces) have executed 50 people for watching South Korean T.V. I don't see you posting anything critical of that.


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The difference is, the USA has spent its existence career proclaiming itself as the paragon of justice and freedom while decrying nations like North Korea for similar harsh and arbitrary punishments.

The point is the utter hypocrisy.


Similar? They're not on the same level of harshness, even if in both cases, there is harshness involved.

I agree with all that the current laws are stupid in a lot of aspects, but to compare the US to North Korea would be absurd, and more so just because you have an axe to grind with America.

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19 Nov 2013, 12:15 am

Yeah I find it to be pretty damn ridiculous.


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19 Nov 2013, 12:44 am

People who publicly talk about real issues like the non-violent prisoners are labeled by the media has being on the fringe: Ralph Nader, Ron Paul, Mike Gravel, Justin Amash, Cindy Sheehan.



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19 Nov 2013, 1:10 pm

I got a weird vibe from West Virginia. Like if my car broke down up in the mountains, the folks in the shanties might have me for dinner. And not in the guest sense.



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19 Nov 2013, 1:31 pm

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I got a weird vibe from West Virginia. Like if my car broke down up in the mountains, the folks in the shanties might have me for dinner. And not in the guest sense.

Don't forget Moth Man is up there in West Virginia. So watch out for Moth Man!



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19 Nov 2013, 7:35 pm

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The U.S. is one of many nations and should not be held up to a higher standard than any other nation. Since the Declaration of Independence was signed in 1776 the U.S. has never lived up to the ideals of the Declaration. So why make a Big Deal now?


Because American is now the dominant superpower and couches its foreign meddling in moralistic terms?


For our own sake we should put a halt to that. It is not good for us to do that sort of thing.

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19 Nov 2013, 8:46 pm

Life without possibility of parole was invented and promoted initially as a humane alternative to the death penalty, a sort of compromise as before they'd say they had to execute people to prevent liberals from springing the killers loose at the first opportunity. Naturally, what was set up originally to deal with those otherwise executed for murder is now being used against pickpockets.



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20 Nov 2013, 2:14 am

Its crazy but what can we do *shrug* Its only a matter of time till the citizens get sick of it and cause another civil war and attempt to overthrow the fedral government and re establish it.


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20 Nov 2013, 2:44 am

If true, that its that many, its outrageous.



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20 Nov 2013, 3:50 pm

Combine this with untreated mental illness due to no insurance coverage and you have one crappy country:

http://www.seattlepi.com/technology/bus ... 994666.php


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