Acceptance of Things as They Are: A disturbing trend
thewhitrbbit wrote:
Life can never be truly fair because perfection cannot exist in the Universe, there will always be an element of chaos. Not even the Borg could find perfection.
I think perfection is a process and not a state. To me this chaos is a part of the perfection. There is this whole idea that things are the way they are and no one can change them therefore no one should try. Coming from personal experience I've been told to accept America as is and things as they are. This is encouraged by a lot of people in America. This was never accepted during the 60's during the civil rights movement. Why? Why this complete 180?
What is wrong with trying to attempt to seek improvement for our way of living. It is like America has a belief in this extreme pessimism and nihilism. In fact, America is schizophrenic with its beliefs? Isn't America about achieving one's dream and overcoming limitations? What happened to reaching for the stars? Why is American society so inconsistent and have such inconsistent standards?
A lot of people hate the way things are right? Why don't anyone get together and change them? If attitude is key and attitude truthfully hinders shouldn't it apply here as well? The logic given by those who say accept, accept, accept makes no sense and is contrary to positivity. If positivity is true then why can't we all take the concepts and apply them here as well?
cubedemon6073 wrote:
It would never have occurred to me that one had to have salesman ship type skills in order to obtain a job. There would be no way that I could research this out since the requirement was made known to me until a certain time period in my life. It never would have occurred to me to even ask questions or look anything up whatsoever since I didn't know that I didn't have what was required and I could not look it up since I never knew it was required in the first place. I've always thought ability and the degree was enough and I never knew until it was to late that this was not enough. There was no way I knew I needed to improve myself since I did not conceive that I even needed improving and thought I had enough and was taught all that I needed to know.
I agree with you on this, and I think it's perfectly valid to complain about it. This self-selling aspect is one part of the job market I tend to criticize too.
Let me add a few others:
- Schooling has become largely unimportant in the job market. Now it's all about job experience. The ironic thing is that it's very difficult to get job experience without having job experience.
- From both my own first-hand experience and from talking to others, it seems to be a valid statement to say that in general, the higher you get paid at a job, the less work it will require you to do.
- Job security is virtually non-existant now. Most large companies are abusing the labor market and side-stepping job laws by hiring contractors instead of direct employees. This allows them to hire and fire at will, as well as not be obligated to provide benefits. This is why the number of job agency companies have grown exponentially over the past few years, it's a booming industry, but one that's ultimately screwing over eomployees nearly everywhere.
I've worked my way up through the job market and worked at various levels, from near minimum wage to where I am now at a large corporate company. So this is an area that I know enough about to be able to complain about. I agree that if you don't know enough about something you can't really validly complain about it. But what you're talking about I think is valid to complain about now that you obviously do know enough about it.
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Let me add a few others:
- Schooling has become largely unimportant in the job market. Now it's all about job experience. The ironic thing is that it's very difficult to get job experience without having job experience.
- Schooling has become largely unimportant in the job market. Now it's all about job experience. The ironic thing is that it's very difficult to get job experience without having job experience.
Exactly, one is told to start at the bottom but if one has to have experience then where is the bottom to start at? What exactly is hieararchy?
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- From both my own first-hand experience and from talking to others, it seems to be a valid statement to say that in general, the higher you get paid at a job, the less work it will require you to do.
This is mine as well.
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- Job security is virtually non-existant now. Most large companies are abusing the labor market and side-stepping job laws by hiring contractors instead of direct employees. This allows them to hire and fire at will, as well as not be obligated to provide benefits. This is why the number of job agency companies have grown exponentially over the past few years, it's a booming industry, but one that's ultimately screwing over eomployees nearly everywhere.
I see. I did not know this.
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I've worked my way up through the job market and worked at various levels, from near minimum wage to where I am now at a large corporate company. So this is an area that I know enough about to be able to complain about. I agree that if you don't know enough about something you can't really validly complain about it. But what you're talking about I think is valid to complain about now that you obviously do know enough about it.
How did you work your way up through the job market and worked at various levels? What do you mean by this? What were your specific methods and techniques? How did you determine the hierarchy? What exactly is your career? This is why I had to give up and claim disability.
To me, the workplace of today is so confusing. I do not get it whatsoever and I do not get what I am supposed to do to make it in my field of Information Technology. I literally do not get it whatsoever. I know that I do not know and here is the kicker. Others can't or will not tell me the specifics. Even on here, it is the same which tells me my version of Aspergers is very severe.
cubedemon6073 wrote:
How did you work your way up through the job market and worked at various levels? What do you mean by this? What were your specific methods and techniques? How did you determine the hierarchy? What exactly is your career? This is why I had to give up and claim disability.
To me, the workplace of today is so confusing. I do not get it whatsoever and I do not get what I am supposed to do to make it in my field of Information Technology. I literally do not get it whatsoever. I know that I do not know and here is the kicker. Others can't or will not tell me the specifics. Even on here, it is the same which tells me my version of Aspergers is very severe.
To me, the workplace of today is so confusing. I do not get it whatsoever and I do not get what I am supposed to do to make it in my field of Information Technology. I literally do not get it whatsoever. I know that I do not know and here is the kicker. Others can't or will not tell me the specifics. Even on here, it is the same which tells me my version of Aspergers is very severe.
I realized that job experience is what matters most, with quantity seeming to matter more than quality or specific industry, and capitalized on that by taking whatever jobs I could to get some experience. I started with retail, which is relatively easy to get hired for even without much experience. Retail doesn't really bother me that much, since unlike some AS I'm more of a people person and like to socialize, to an extent. From there I moved into basically call center type stuff, which retail experience helps with because customer service is a big part of call center type jobs. Then I used my knack for understanding computer software to improve on the practices on the call center places in my spare time at them, mostly by organizing and consolidating any data about the job into easier methods than they typically used (ie. making training manuals, spreadsheets of data that are easy to search, etc.). This probably helped me a bit with moving within and between companies into more technical positions, often using the job agencies I was mentioning (and complaining about) in my previous message. Now I'm currently working in a contractor position as internal SAP tech support for a large international oil company. None of this required any sort of computer degree (I actually have a psychology and philosophy degree, but those relate in almost no way whatsoever to the jobs I've done).
Feel free to PM me if you want more details, and I'll be glad to do my best to help you out further.
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