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bamc1130
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19 Feb 2007, 7:33 pm

NeoPlatonist wrote:

I am comforted by the fact that my existence will end someday.

I don't think that is so strange. I think it was Emerson that wrote "The goal of living is to die."

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19 Feb 2007, 7:43 pm

I'd like to live forevor if it meant I had a good looking woman to live forevor with me.

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19 Feb 2007, 8:41 pm

I don't believe in an afterlife. Human beings think that they are important enough to carry on to some other life, but in reality we are insignificant specs of carbon on an insignificant ball of mud in the universe. What gives us the right to live on? Our art? All we ever do is argue about our art. Our emotions? The only emotions most people feel anymore are hatred and fear. People who believe in afterlives are just afraid of dying, so they make up a false hope for themselves and reinforce it with vague religious texts written by people who we're not sure even existed. It's foolish, in my opinion.

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19 Feb 2007, 9:16 pm

paulsinnerchild wrote:

I don't believe in God; I cannot believe in a god no matter how hard I try, but I do believe the universe because there was no designer to guide the way it instead simply stumbled across every possible error and in doing so stumbled on a means to be aware of its own existence and be not so oblivious to any era of time no matter how long. Even with the 13.7billion years of time preceeding your birth.
So I think you must exist in one state or another and you are alive in this world because you are dead or yet to be born in millions of other alternative worlds.

Your ideas are fascinating. How would a hypothesis of multiple alternate realities or worlds be falsified or proven short of travel between them which might damage the fabric of space time?

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19 Feb 2007, 9:24 pm

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I remember when my parents frequently speaking of "old times". Times before they had ever met and got married. What upset me was the notion that I did not exist in those "old times" and it kind of put a chill up my spine. So I found not existing for an eternity into the past upset me far more than not existing for an eternity into the future. The future was a mystery to everyone one, but the past was rich with events which I was denied a part. I did not desire to by immortal so much as being innatal, as I dreaded the thought of my life terminating at my birth and going no further.

An intriguing concept, innatality. Are we talking completely unoriginate? If so, even if you were still in the final analysis mortal, the vast expanses of time and atemporal eternity (assuming that you do not simply mean going back to the dawn of time) for which you would now have lived would probably have had many of the downsides of immortality as conventionally conceived. Of course, if you were outside time in some sense you might not be subject to boredom or bereavement in the same way. You would also probably not be human (not that's a bad thing or anything).

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22 Feb 2007, 11:38 pm

I would like to Live forever.

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25 Feb 2007, 3:47 pm

Kamex wrote:

I would like to live forever. I dont' feel that way in the normal instinctive sense of trying to delay death as much as possible, but I like the prospect of how much I could learn in such a time span. I'd like to have enough time to learn every human language, every programming language, and become a specialist in every possible field. I am greedy, I crave knowledge.

I would get to witness the apocalypse, which I actually think I'd want. The way it is now, I feel like I'm watching a movie with the last half of it missing. I want to see how the story of humanity ends.

I don't think such a hope is impossible. This body would give out long before then, but given how we're learning more and more about the human mind all the time, it isn't beyond hope that in 60 years, my memories might be transferrable to a machine. I'd be happier as a computer anyway. Computers are so much more logical than human beings.

I feel exactly the same.

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26 Feb 2007, 3:46 am

Sir_Sefirot wrote:

Kamex wrote:

I feel exactly the same.

A creation is only as good as it's creator.

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26 Feb 2007, 9:52 pm

Deus_ex_machina wrote:

A creation is only as good as it's creator.

Meaning?

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