faults of westernized thinking,

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i think the biggest fault of western society is trying to make others in the world just like them.

in a way it seems like they want to make the rest of the world like them, i know it is wrong but its not just like the usa in making them "democratic", thats the excuse for privatising their industries and taking over the minds of the people so they become materialistic worshipers and working machines like in the usa

in the religious texts that say God created men from "clay/earth" it is taken literally by most religious people,saying evolution its a myth,but God also said in his texts that he talks to men through PARABLES,thus the meaning of the verse is that God created men from the earth ,like a plant, evolution. check the human body,it has the elements of the planet earth,
Oxygen (65%)
Carbon (18%)
Hydrogen (10%)
Nitrogen (3%)
Calcium (1.5%)
Phosphorus (1.0%)
Potassium (0.35%)
Sulfur (0.25%)
Sodium (0.15%)
Magnesium (0.05%)
Copper, Zinc, Selenium, Molybdenum, Fluorine, Chlorine, Iodine, Manganese, Cobalt, Iron (0.70%)
Lithium, Strontium, Aluminum, Silicon, Lead, Vanadium, Arsenic, Bromine (trace amounts)
.

i dont know till when religious people will not realize this...

they forgot GOD who created them gave them a brain,but they dont like to use it most of the time,most of the the people too,not just religious ones,but the religion preached by most recent leaders are totally harmful for evolution of the mind.

peace

in a way it seems like they want to make the rest of the world like them,i know it is wrong,but its not just like the usa in making them "democratic", thats the excuse for privatising their industries and taking over the minds of the people so they become materialistic worshipers and working machines like in the usa,once they got control of your companies they live like kings,look at the uk for example,they have nothing in that little island that would produce a profit,and countries in south america rich in resources are in poverty while there in the uk are ultra millionares and theres no mega ghettoes.

the people need to wake up and stop their games,solve some problems and then we can all go back to party...

peace

This is a gross generalisation concerning religious people, ASPER. Many do use their brains. Actually most people use their brains; they would be able to do little if they did not. And seriously, many religious people do use specifically those parts of the brain associated with reason. To return to snake321's objection, yes extreme view points from either side can be irritating, but moderation is not invariably a wiser stance. It can be (though certainly not in Snake's case) apathy. The long-term consequences of this can also be perilous. But certainly one should be able to listen to arguments from both sides without losing one's temper too much, and draw one's own conclusion with the assistance of reason and other human traits. But reason is not infallible.

In what way is non-bias moderation a less wise of a stance? Lets say (random names here) Dan and Samantha are on work break, and they are planning on a business meeting over lunch. Dan wants Chinese, and Samantha wants Italian. The best course of action is for them to compromise and eat at a Chinese/Italian restaraunt, right?

yes, what a great paragraph you have here.

You probably agree with the 'working' factor. Just so you know, America, which is or at least WAS the best country to live in, was done so through "working machines."

the quran show us who has to be killed,or better yet, fought, because if you read the translation of it saying believers should kill the infidel,its not that simple,if u read further youll see that if they dont start the fight it is impossible to start a war making that just self defense.

the TALMUD!(written by rabbis saying it was God inspired,kinda like they came together with an evil plan and put it on paper) thats evil! here some verses from it,then youll realize why most jews are murderers and tricksters with the money.

"It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile."
Sepher ikkarim III c 25

"A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands."
Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b

"The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts."
Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b

Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Sanhedrin 43a. Jesus deserved execution: "On the eve of the Passover, Yeshu (Jesus) was hanged...Do you suppose that he was one for whom a defense could be made? Was he not a Mesith (enticer)?".....(the quran says they got someone else not jesus himself,jesus did not die on the cross)

PLEASE, go the this site if u wish to know more,its full of atrocities regarding the talmud,youll begin to realize why these people are so evil.
http://www.missionislam.com/nwo/talmud.htm

this goes out not in the news because the jews put a lot of money in this country to get things done and kill the muslims and even americans because they dont care about no one except their fellow jews.

peace

i think the biggest fault of western society is trying to make others in the world just like them.

I do not think that ASPER was talking about labour-saving devices, but about his concern about people becoming materialistic automata. You may not have meant the phrase in the "labour-saving device" way either, though if it were a comment on superior diligence or industriousness I am uncertain if you have as strong a case, Corvus.

You probably agree with the 'working' factor. Just so you know, America, which is or at least WAS the best country to live in, was done so through "working machines."

Another example, science vs. religion, religious people do not use a bit of logic or rationality, however, religion does offer a platform for morality to those who are too weak to develope morality on their own (which is sadly most people). However, hardline atheists often use science, evolution, or genetics as an excuse to consciously act like primates..