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25 Apr 2014, 9:51 pm

I have some neighbours who are Buddhists, there is some Tibetan Buddhists monks living in Victoria somewhere they had a display in our local shopping centre one day.



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25 Apr 2014, 10:09 pm

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Part of the reason I set up this thread was to watch and let others see the difference between how Buddhists handle criticism and misunderstanding in comparison to how Christians handle criticism and misunderstanding. Most Buddhists seem not to translate criticism, misunderstanding and questioning as attacks on their beliefs. I think it is important to try and understand why that is. It is not a matter of one being better or superior. Merely a demonstration that disagreement does not have to be ugly and disrespectful. Disagreement and misunderstanding is simply an opportunity for learning from each other to present itself. Tallyman is an excellent emissary of Buddhism, just being his natural self. Much better than I could ever be.




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WRONG!! !

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25 Apr 2014, 10:20 pm

ModusPonens wrote:
khaoz wrote:
Part of the reason I set up this thread was to watch and let others see the difference between how Buddhists handle criticism and misunderstanding in comparison to how Christians handle criticism and misunderstanding. Most Buddhists seem not to translate criticism, misunderstanding and questioning as attacks on their beliefs. I think it is important to try and understand why that is. It is not a matter of one being better or superior. Merely a demonstration that disagreement does not have to be ugly and disrespectful. Disagreement and misunderstanding is simply an opportunity for learning from each other to present itself. Tallyman is an excellent emissary of Buddhism, just being his natural self. Much better than I could ever be.




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WRONG!! !



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25 Apr 2014, 10:59 pm

khaoz wrote:
Part of the reason I set up this thread was to watch and let others see the difference between how Buddhists handle criticism and misunderstanding in comparison to how Christians handle criticism and misunderstanding. Most Buddhists seem not to translate criticism, misunderstanding and questioning as attacks on their beliefs. I think it is important to try and understand why that is. It is not a matter of one being better or superior. Merely a demonstration that disagreement does not have to be ugly and disrespectful. Disagreement and misunderstanding is simply an opportunity for learning from each other to present itself. Tallyman is an excellent emissary of Buddhism, just being his natural self. Much better than I could ever be.




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So wise! It would be refreshing if more people shared this philosophy. It's a matter of sharing different points of view and connecting, like when Jesus sat down and ate with all those publicans - tax collectors and sinners. At that point he was not merely shouting commandments and parables at them from a distant. He became their friend.



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25 Apr 2014, 11:44 pm

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I enjoy learning about 1, 2, 3, and 4, and respect others whichever aspect of Buddhism they are embracing.
I have spent the most time studying 3 and taking baby steps toward 4.
I also study Taoist, Hindu, and Yogic philosophy.
I believe that these three approaches also manifest in the 4 forms just like Buddhism.

PS The second I hear a teacher assert that their approach is the ONLY one, I know they cannot be 'awake'.


Then beware of a very common mistake in translations of one of the most important buddhist scriptures: the satipatthana sutta. It is translated many times as saying that satipatthana (mindfulness of body, sensations, mind and mental objects) is "the only way" to liberation. But, iirc, it is best translated as "the direct way".


thanks for that!! !



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26 Apr 2014, 12:00 am

slave wrote:
ModusPonens wrote:
slave wrote:
I enjoy learning about 1, 2, 3, and 4, and respect others whichever aspect of Buddhism they are embracing.
I have spent the most time studying 3 and taking baby steps toward 4.
I also study Taoist, Hindu, and Yogic philosophy.
I believe that these three approaches also manifest in the 4 forms just like Buddhism.

PS The second I hear a teacher assert that their approach is the ONLY one, I know they cannot be 'awake'.


Then beware of a very common mistake in translations of one of the most important buddhist scriptures: the satipatthana sutta. It is translated many times as saying that satipatthana (mindfulness of body, sensations, mind and mental objects) is "the only way" to liberation. But, iirc, it is best translated as "the direct way".


thanks for that!! !


A teacher who talks about his own enlightenment should expect to be questioned. Buddhism encourages doubt, and reaching beyond doubt. Question everything.



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26 Apr 2014, 9:07 am

khaoz wrote:
slave wrote:
ModusPonens wrote:
slave wrote:
I enjoy learning about 1, 2, 3, and 4, and respect others whichever aspect of Buddhism they are embracing.
I have spent the most time studying 3 and taking baby steps toward 4.
I also study Taoist, Hindu, and Yogic philosophy.
I believe that these three approaches also manifest in the 4 forms just like Buddhism.

PS The second I hear a teacher assert that their approach is the ONLY one, I know they cannot be 'awake'.


Then beware of a very common mistake in translations of one of the most important buddhist scriptures: the satipatthana sutta. It is translated many times as saying that satipatthana (mindfulness of body, sensations, mind and mental objects) is "the only way" to liberation. But, iirc, it is best translated as "the direct way".


thanks for that!! !


A teacher who talks about his own enlightenment should expect to be questioned. Buddhism encourages doubt, and reaching beyond doubt. Question everything.

That's what I like to do!



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26 Apr 2014, 11:54 am

I can't remember the exact wording of the story but it's something like this.
"A venerable old Monk had three young monks request teachings,the elder would only take one student at a time.So he told all three of them he was very hungry, and would they go steal food for him,it would be allright because he said so.Two got up and left,one stayed seating.The elder asked the young man wht he didn't do as told.The young man replied that it was not right,he was confused why the teacher would ask him to steal,and he would not do it.The old man had found his new student.
Blind faith causes all sorts of problems in the world.


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