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And that's weak.


Articles arent facts, they are just articles.
Really, how much longer are you going to continue to dig your own grave here?

Why?

Cus' you said so, nyah nyah nyah?


Circular argument. You could offer precisely the same retort against any possible response i could offer. Likewise I could do the same, regardless of any historical sources therein.

OH, OPINIONS AREN'T FACTS, THEY'RE JUST OPINIONS!

I just won the thread.

You said something about historical revisionism earlier? ....

This is exactly what i was talking about when i referred to circular arguments.

Only the most hawkish and biased of historians ever try to suggest that Palestine was a barren unpopulated desert when the Zionists arrived.

Everyone with their own political or agenda otherwise emphasizes what works with their intended goal and ignores or marginalizes whatever data doesn't fit - we're talking dogma fighting dogma here. You see what you've been taught to believe, and so does everyone else - it's as Julius Caesar said, people most willingly believe that which they already do. (Or something like that, from De Bello Gallico I believe.)

As for the subject of anti semitism in the muslim world, I call BS on that.

Proud Iranian Jews that are not only are proud to call themselves Iranian, they REJECT financial incentives by Israel to encourage them to migrate to Israel.

One of only 4 Jewish charity hospitals in the world is in Tehran.

I thought Jews were persecuted in Iran?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA7yz2vciGk[/youtube]

Yep, this is called "drawing a line, and then plotting the points". During the Holocaust, Jewish people were required to write letters saying about how great everything was and one group had to put on a play for inspectors prior to them being gassed next week and having their ashes used to make soap. I call BS upon your calling of BS, because while you may find better places within any given set, you also have more religiously fundamentalist groups who read the passages that are anti-Jewish and anti-Christian and teach their flock of sheeple to follow them. You can find whatever you look for - seek and you will find - but you're only looking for stuff to support what you already believe. Try searching for the opposite and get past the cognitive dissonance and you'll see the other side of the coin.

My point is, not every liberal is Anti-Israel. Remember, Israel's first supporters in America were liberals, such as President Harry Truman, who was the first to recognize the Jewish state.
And just because liberals are critical of Israeli policies and human rights abuses hardly means they are advocating the totalitarian Islamic countries surrounding Israel; rather it's only because as a westernized country, Israel ought to know better and act accordingly. And yes, liberals are always speaking out against Islamic homophobic violence, and religious persecution - the charge by conservatives that American liberals - which includes plenty of Jewish Americans - overlook those things is a lie. I can't speak for European liberals and their attitudes toward Israel, as I admittedly know little about them.

Now that IS weak.

The difference being, with the nazi whitewashing, Rabbis werent permitted to speak to cameras to voice their views and they werent being offered copious amounts of cash by another country to get away.

So pray tell, if things are so bad for Jews in Iran why aren't they snapping up these generous cash sums to leave their persecutors? If Jews are so unwelcome in Iran as you think, its not like anyone is keeping them there.

In conclusion, I call BS on your calling my call of BS, BS.

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You can listen to what I said, that you're picking that data points that you want to hear, or not. I'm not going to care enough about this to let your anger bother me.

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I guess you are not aware of the fact that since the advent of the nuclear weapon the number of deaths from war dropped dramatically. Sorry but you are uneducated and dead wrong. It is a known fact that the nuclear weapons area deterrent to war and are in fact responsible for preventing it. Them having nukes has prevented war. Get your facts strait, they are not the threat, the they the peace keepers. You are just loath to admit it because it diminishes what you want to believe.

Have you ever actually watched the History Channel? If the US had not nuked Japan we would have had to have invaded Japan with a ground force many times larger than the D Day invasion and it would have cost millions of more souls to end the war. It would have been catastrophic compared to what ended up happening and thus ending the war. Saying that you dont care if Iran gets nukes just shows that you harbor the kind of reckless stupidity that leads to things like nuclear war, it is stupid and inexcusable.

Yes, there was. Israel existed back in the bronze ages. You're denying historical evidence to spread propaganda.

It can be justified in this case. Europe in the 1920s and Europe today sees the jews the same way. It all started with boycott of jewish merchants, while ignoring the flaws of "everyone else". Furthermore, if you compare the nazis to Stalin, to antisemites in denial or anything that actually resembles the nazis, it does not fall under Godwin's law.



Remember what the nazis did to ethnic minorities and homosexuals? Hamas and their supporters do the exact same thing. Where have we seen this salute before?





It isn't the Israelis who send suicide bombers. The barrier has saved more than 1,000 individuals, so the ends justify the means.



These limits will fall the day Hamas respects the ceasefire(s)



Most of it's no more harassment than that of regular police patrols



Electricity, healthcare, and food are typically given free of charge by Israel.



Palestinians can get free treatment at Israeli hospitals in emergency circumstances.



Did you pull that one out of your ass? 100,000 arabs were forcefully removed in 1947. All were offered full compensation in 1949.



It became disproportionate the day Hamas started using women, children, and entire schools and hospitals as human shields.



The Israeli forces only target Hamas military. The Hamas suicide bombers, or the 10,000+++ missiles they've sent, almost always target civilians.

The charter of Hamas: "Israel will rise and will remain erect until Islam eliminates it as it had eliminated its predecessors."



Only 2.3% of the Israeli GDP is financial aid from other countries. Get your facts checked. A much larger percentage of the Gaza GDP is foreign aid. Israel built an infrastructure, Hamas bought luxury cars for the oligarchs, and left nothing but breadcrumbs for the people.




Israel was a country long before most other countries in the Middle East. Palestine was a territory in Syria; the people spoke Arabic, and embraced the Syrian culture, with a local subculture. It wasn't a country any more than Roskilde is. Palestinian nationalism was invented in 1967.

And here's your prize.

I'd hardly call Truman a liberal by todays standards.


Any human rights violations Israel is guilty of, both real and imagined, are a drop in the bucket compared to their enemies that the left insists on siding with.