How could something come from nothing?

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The Bible also encourages people to worship a vain and psychotic deity.

Harmonyseptember. The problem you are having is one of what is intuitive to you, you simply cannot wrap your head around the idea that the universe could come into existence without the need for an external cause. And you are not alone, I myself grapple with this, I have read A brief history of Time and Grand Design by Stephen Hawking, Why Does E=MC2 By Brian Cox and Jeffrey Foreshaw,. and I am now reading A Universe from Nothing: Why There Is Something Rather Than Nothing by Lawrence M, Krauss. What I get from reading these books is that although we do not actually know how the universe came into existence we are now at a stage where we can put together rational scenarios using the our existing knowledge of the laws of the universe which explain how it came about.

The concept of an external creator appeals to you because it is intuitive, as you stated to make a piece of paper fly it helps if it is crafted in such a way as to make it aerodynamic. Throughout the course of human history discoveries have been made which go against intuitive thinking, fortunately the people making these discoveries went with the evidence and not with what they thought should be the case

One of my favourite quotes is this from Brian Cox

"Difficult as it may sometimes seem, science at its heart is not a complicated discipline. One might venture to say that it is an attempt at removing our innate prejudices in order to observe the world as objectively as possible. It may be more or less successful in that goal but few can doubt its success in teaching us how the universe ?works.? The really difficult thing is to learn not to trust what we might like to think of as common sense. By teaching us to accept nature for what it is, and not for what our prejudice may suggest that it should be, the scientific method has delivered the modern technological world. In short, it works."

If you genuinely want to try to understand how a universe could come from "nothing" (Nothing as has already been pointed out is a very loaded concept) I suggest you read Why does E=MC2 followed by A Briefer HIstory of time and then Lawrence Krauss.

GOod luck and enjoy the journey.

...just some random tangents. Munch away:

Facts: 'Matter' is dust and energy. Atoms are more space than actual substance; what is actually contact and touch is a storm of bonds, vibrations, and repulsions of intricately arranged molecular structures, cells, organs, air, etc. Matter has less native energy when colder than warmer; water condenses and freezes as the molecules slow down, allowing for matter to bond together to shift into ice. Absolute Zero, then, is matter at it's most absolute; atoms with no room to wiggle.

Hypothesis: The only thing that would be needed to manifest a theoretical mass at absolute zero into 'being' would be Light. In a void of absolute nothing, ALL matter would simply be a single mass of indeterminable size. Without energy, the atoms and their bits would simply be inert. Light, then, would be the raw energy that charges matter; forces the matter to move against itself, transferring the energy further. Of course, this indeterminate mass would require an indeterminable amount of energy to reach a 'critical mass' state where the matter finally presses free of itself. One Big Bang.

In conclusion...something like splitting an atom, only...on such a scale that it dwarfs the splitting of one. As for coming from nothing, well...there was God in the beginning (as I like to believe, YMMV), and as such had plenty of 'perfect' matter. And yet...this deity existed before light. Before energy. In the middle of nothing. And, well...I'm pretty sure the Breath that Be can use him/her/itself however he/she/it wants to be; certainly existed before our standard for existence existed, if that is your belief. After all, we are claimed to have been made in his/her/its image: One body, compromised of billions of individual cells, arranged so intricately and complexly that it foils the image of our galaxy- and perhaps more boldly, the whole universe.

And so there was Light. And that's my train of thought on the matter. Peace, and Breathe easy.

AS far s I know no one has an answer to this question.

I could be wrong.

No we don't but as I said early it would seem we are getting closer to an answer and it does not lie within the realm of the supernatural

DentArthurDent,

I read two web pages about E=MC2. One is about the atheistic point of view, and the other is based on Christianity. I will leave the web addresses here for people to compare if they wanted to.

http://www.godandbrain.com/is-emc2-proo ... ce-of-god/
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/einstein/expe-text.html

Another thing, Stanley Miller created amino acid (protein) with the gasses that is believed to have caused the evolution of living things, but there was no life created in this experiment.

I can show proof to the mind, but I myself can't show proof to the heart. This is why I prayed for you guys.

I hope you don't mind asking this but I'm unfamiliar with the 'dust' part of that equation. Not trying to pin you down to a use of verbiage but what I mean is that I've heard quite often that matter is energy but I've never heard that its energy and an unknown solid interacting.

AFAIK we have a hard time being certain whether the fundamental building blocks are particles or waves, the behavior seems to change based on how we measure them (albeit the uncertainty seems to decrease with relative mass of a structure), and then there's a lot of talk about 'wave-function collapse' where the root fundamentals of matter seem to come a state of being diffused throughout all of space (ie. superposition) and reduce from that state into ion and anion under certain stimuli. At that level things seem liquid enough that there doesn't seem to be much evidence for two things interacting mechanically such as 'energy and dust' so much as one thing behaving in ways that we can't easily wrap our heads around.

All matter has energy; ergo, it isn't energy interacting with matter so much as it is the energies between two bits of matter interacting with each other in order to achieve a state of equilibrium. I chose the word dust just to generalize protons, neutrons, electrons, and whatever the bits are that make them, as you have pointed out that we don't know the actual legos of our existence. I haven't read into the latest research on the subject, so could be that I am talking out of ignorance.

THIS^^^

In the extreeeeeeeeam off-chance that the bible turns out to be true and a God exists as described in the New Testament, then I'm 100% with "Team Satan" on this one. God is the clear villain.