Jacoby wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Forgive me for thinking you had rational thought out response to that. I don't care for neoconservative arguments which you linked to, I find them dishonest and sociopathic. I don't see foreign policy and the lives it effects as a grand chess game, I believe in right & wrong not realpolitik or the moral relativism that lies within. The only just war is a defensive war. History hath shown what the true consequences for our adventurism, it isn't a net positive.
ww2 wasn't defensive. korea wasn't defensive. yet both of these are consider good and needed wars. should we have waited for Hitler to finish off Europe and attacked the us before we acted?
is a offensive war to stop genocide wrong?
also he made valid points you saying people can only talk about wars or military stuff if they are in the military is silly. obama never served so what right does he have to tell the military what to do. we need to elect a military general from no on I guess.
I would gladly serve my nation if it called. would you?
I would defend my family and my home, not the private interests some greedy corporation or power-lusting politician. I believe that interventionism breeds violence, that it perpetuates it and creates more suffering and blood shed in the long run than it would without. If you look at all the problems we have today, you can trace the origin of them back to our creation. I believe in neutrality, I believe America should be like Switzerland. That is what our founders wanted, Thomas Jefferson said that was should have "peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all; entangling alliances with none".
WWII is good example of blowback, if the US didn't interfere in WWI does it even happen? It's easy to point out WWII as the "good war" but it ignores how that situation came about in the first place.
what about my family? others?
I would gladly defend any human's life regardless of blood or citizenship.
violence doesn't need to be bread it already exists and self replicates. ignoring it won't stop it but allow it to spread. all that is needed for evil to succeed is good men to do nothing. this is the problem with our world. if a person sees a woman be stabbed he does nothing, its not his family its not his problem.
is switzerland neutral? they do so many bad money deals, they bank roll bad people, they accept blood money, they support evil and violence as long as it makes them money. I wouldn't call that neutral. if they were they would not do any deals outside their nation. how did we get into ww1. we were neutral and sold to both sides, turns out people don't like you seelling weapons to their enemies. greed is the provider of violence. we were greedy to sell to both sides when to be neutral we should have sold to no on.
but we did and got attacked for it. ever war comes down to greed, wanting money, wanting power, wanting land. we humans are never happy with what we have, always wanting more. so sooner or later we'd get attacked, and Id rather have allies at that time to help us.
03 Sep 2014, 7:30 pm
