Mississippi, what a waste
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Blacks vote Democrat because of FDR. (Yes, a long time ago, but they're still mad over slavery.) Whites vote GOP because of Reagan, mostly, or a smaller number because of Nixon, but even dumb people know that it's not cool to like Nixon, so let's just go with Reagan.
Such people are commonly called "low information voters". All a GOP candidate has to do is play the Reagan Card to get elected. With blacks, it's the Race Card ("evil honkies are trying to take away your money, so vote for me!"). Nobody cares about party platforms, so the platform is just there to give political consultants jobs.
When in office, pols only listen to the rich people who keep the lights on in the Capitol, meaning the landed elite. Party affiliation is irrelevant. The actual positions of the candidates on most issues is pretty much the same, and they use a handful of meaningless "wedge issues" (abortion, gay marriage, etc) to get the low info voters to choose the pre-anointed guy.
As for can they comprehend what the elites are doing, no way, in most parts of the country the people have had whatever intelligence they may have had bred out of them LONG ago. They don't have much in the way of thinking at all. They eat and watch TV and surf porn on their beat up old computers. The few who work have learned to bathe and brush their teeth and look generally presentable for a short while. Some of them see a doctor every few months for "lifestyle illnesses" like high blood pressure and diabetes.
that reminds me of h.g. wells and the story of the elois and the morlocks.
What an idealized view of elections.
From Chicago and Detroit down to New Orleans and Jackson, packaging the Black vote for sale is a major industry. It is what Community Organizers do.
While the pay per vote is low, the payoff is in government jobs, like the Welfare and Food Stamps lady being a member of your church.
Those with government connections vote the graveyard, and none of the dead have ever been convicted.
Someone has to claim to be them, vote in their precinct, talk to people they have not seen since their funeral, and often return as someone else a short time later
Why else would anyone take an unpaid job at the polls?
"All politics is local!" Getting the vote calls for some local payoff, crumbs, that then is free meals for State and National level offices.
It is how a white Republican can go to Washington from a Black District. How the local Sheriff will still be a Klan member, while Black Mayors and city councils split up the economic development money.
White people are taken advantage of, who are they going to vote for, a Republican, or a Jesse Jackson clone?
You talk about voting, I have run State wide Canidates, and who wins is who knows the most Community Organizers, Activists, and the most Poll Workers.
The real issues are dealt with long before the election, getting the Christian anti abortion vote, the homosexual marriage vote, pardons for convicted Felons, Union/Mob Workers groups, are all looking for someone who will support their view. You must speak with the Presidents, Ministers, Capos, Voodoo Priests, Pimps, and let them bring supporters to show they have clout in the system.
Pandering to the unwashed masses is hard work.
All of this is needed before you can present to the Corporations who have millions invested in the district, along with a list of people who would harm their interests, and should have accidents.
Where most seek upward power, the true powers want to be able to reach down to the lowest level and bring sudden and drastic change. Maintaining power has other rules, no elections involved.
Then there is the guilty in power, they want someone who will tip them off about a Fed investigation, and who is being relied on as a witness, so problems can be fixed before they happen.
Getting 50% plus one vote means givng your full support to the people who elected you.
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^^^
Union/mob workers groups? My dad had been a union grievance man (shop steward), and never once had he or his local branch of the United Steel Workers ever deal with organized crime. Sure, the Teamsters are dirty, but that doesn't apply to every union.
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So do we end up like the movie, "Idiocity"?
In the Detroit area, black people are equivalent to an invading army, black people expand outward from Detroit, and move into white cities , and then white people fall back, and relinquish that ground, and again black people advance, and yet again white people fall back. I moved my aunt out of Redford, MI cause it had gotten "too dark". This is the basis for Eminen's movie 'Eight Mile' in Detroit. It is the outermost "battle line", and the biggest racial demarcation in the United States.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1115/p01s02-ussc.html
However, It is not about black people per se; it is about poor black people (the section 8 type). Entire regions of formally beautiful well-kept homes will be relinquished and another city will be transformed into a ghetto. I wonder if this is happening everywhere in the US? The well-to-do fleeing from the have-nothings ?
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So do we end up like the movie, "Idiocity"?
In the Detroit area, black people are equivalent to an invading army, black people expand outward from Detroit, and move into white cities , and then white people fall back, and relinquish that ground, and again black people advance, and yet again white people fall back. I moved my aunt out of Redford, MI cause it had gotten "too dark". This is the basis for Eminen's movie 'Eight Mile' in Detroit. It is the outermost "battle line", and the biggest racial demarcation in the United States.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1115/p01s02-ussc.html
However, It is not about black people per se; it is about poor black people (the section 8 type). Entire regions of formally beautiful well-kept homes will be relinquished and another city will be turned into a run-down ghetto. I wonder if this is happening everywhere in the US? The well-to-do fleeing from the have-nothings ?
You are aware that the rest of us are reading the racial bias you're writing, don't you?
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You are aware that the rest of us are reading the racial bias you're writing, don't you?
Racial bias? What racial bias? Did you read the link I provided? Do you disagree with the facts reported by the United States census ?
Just search google, and read how Detroit's fall is actually blamed on "white flight". Well, did you think it was over ? Of course not. Well-to-do people flee have-nothings, because they can.
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You are aware that the rest of us are reading the racial bias you're writing, don't you?
Racial bias? What racial bias? Did you read the link I provided? Do you disagree with the facts reported by the United States census ?
Just search google, and read how Detroit's fall is actually blamed on "white flight". Well, did you think it was over ? Of course not. Well-to-do people flee have-nothings, because they can.
but WHY??? when has a "have-nothing" hurt you? you do understand that you are perpetuating classism, don't you? why must we be so riven over class? why can't all classes get along together? why can't we just be one class, "americans"?
You are aware that the rest of us are reading the racial bias you're writing, don't you?
Racial bias? What racial bias? Did you read the link I provided? Do you disagree with the facts reported by the United States census ?
Just search google, and read how Detroit's fall is actually blamed on "white flight". Well, did you think it was over ? Of course not. Well-to-do people flee have-nothings, because they can.
but WHY??? when has a "have-nothing" hurt you? you do understand that you are perpetuating classism, don't you? why must we be so riven over class? why can't all classes get along together? why can't we just be one class, "americans"?
I just telling you how it is in Detroit. Earlier, Pezar commented on how well-to-do people live apart from other Mississipians, and how in Oregon well-to-do people live on mountains far away from the poor who "smoke meth and collect disability payments".
The classes cannot get along because people want the nicer things, and it takes money to have those nice things. Poor cities probably have trouble convincing their citizens on higher property taxes. So, there is a funding disparity between the "poor people city" and "well-to-do people city". The well-to-do people city has the property tax money to develop top schools, hire the best teachers, hire full police forces, build brand new buildings, improve anything decaying. While the "poor people city" ultimately reflects the people who live there - infrastructure in decay, boarded up buildings, graffiti, unkept looking ...
Have you ever driven through a city, and looked at tiny, unkept homes, maybe a street light doesn't work, roads are damaged, a few stores are boarded up, and thought, "Who would ever live here?". Of course, the answer is a poor person.
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just because "that's the way it is" doesn't make it morally right. just because something is legal doesn't make it morally right. this is nihilism.
Wasn't Mississippi one of the crapppiest states in almost every category anyway? I think voters should stop voting at the booth and vote with their feet if they can afford it: move to some place that is less sucky overall (which is any other state). Or maybe people have already done that and only the unlucky ones are stuck there.
Well we have two from the north left coast that claim everything is about race, class.
If you want everyone to be the same, good luck.
Saint Petersburg, FL used to be retired old white folk, who were easy marks for street crime. It is now almost all black, decayed, poor, in what was a tourist town.
Jackson MS, same deal, Vicksburg, Memphis, Little Rock.
It is easy to spout liberal things when you live in the almost white only northwest.
We watch as city after city that had survived for hundreds of years becomes Detroit. They will never recover.
It is not class, poor whites get the worst of it. Their schools decline, they cannot afford private, they cannot move, and generations of upward mobility vanish.
Civic decay, opperatunity vanishes. Wealth of generations vanishes
This is recent, it was funded by Section Eight, and Food Stamps.
All intergration did was destroy functioning cities and schools, turning them over to African invasion.
So a County over with no housing, we bought 40 acres, built houses, and there is nothing for rent. The schools are private, there is no bus connection, and everything civic or economic happens through the churches. We have become Mormons.
The Africanized Cities and Counties now have to pay their own School Tax, Property Tax, maintain fire, water, sewer, police, roads, and it is all falling apart.
No one wants to locate a business there, where retail tried in New Orleans East, a huge mall, they were shop lifted out of business in a year, they hired locals, everything vanished.
Cities used to be economic engines, they produced payrolls and sales tax. Now they sell Bonds and run up unpayable debts.
Look to the ruins of Detroit to see the future of America.
This is the result of Magical Thinking, that words and fairy dust could make everyone the same.
When it was made impossible for the few who were keeping everything going to continue, they left.
They now live an Atlas Shrugged existance out in the woods, and only their functional equals are allowed in.
This was brought to you by Leftist Thinking, and Other People's Money. The money is gone, so are the people who made it.
The incentive to make large amounts of taxable income is gone, and we find we can just get by with 200 acres of land, one 18 hole golf course, and a private air strip. It is bare bones, a simple life, but the taxes are low, the crime rate, the air is clean, the schools are good, and you can buy anything on the internet.
The Workers Paradise is free to do what they have all done, eat each other. The city eating plague will spread to the remaining cities.
Thought, labor, and functioning assets will continue to produce as they always have.
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You are aware that the rest of us are reading the racial bias you're writing, don't you?
Racial bias? What racial bias? Did you read the link I provided? Do you disagree with the facts reported by the United States census ?
Just search google, and read how Detroit's fall is actually blamed on "white flight". Well, did you think it was over ? Of course not. Well-to-do people flee have-nothings, because they can.
Reporting on white flight is one thing, justifying it is quite another.
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If you want everyone to be the same, good luck.
Saint Petersburg, FL used to be retired old white folk, who were easy marks for street crime. It is now almost all black, decayed, poor, in what was a tourist town.
Jackson MS, same deal, Vicksburg, Memphis, Little Rock.
It is easy to spout liberal things when you live in the almost white only northwest.
We watch as city after city that had survived for hundreds of years becomes Detroit. They will never recover.
It is not class, poor whites get the worst of it. Their schools decline, they cannot afford private, they cannot move, and generations of upward mobility vanish.
Civic decay, opperatunity vanishes. Wealth of generations vanishes
This is recent, it was funded by Section Eight, and Food Stamps.
All intergration did was destroy functioning cities and schools, turning them over to African invasion.
So a County over with no housing, we bought 40 acres, built houses, and there is nothing for rent. The schools are private, there is no bus connection, and everything civic or economic happens through the churches. We have become Mormons.
The Africanized Cities and Counties now have to pay their own School Tax, Property Tax, maintain fire, water, sewer, police, roads, and it is all falling apart.
No one wants to locate a business there, where retail tried in New Orleans East, a huge mall, they were shop lifted out of business in a year, they hired locals, everything vanished.
Cities used to be economic engines, they produced payrolls and sales tax. Now they sell Bonds and run up unpayable debts.
Look to the ruins of Detroit to see the future of America.
This is the result of Magical Thinking, that words and fairy dust could make everyone the same.
When it was made impossible for the few who were keeping everything going to continue, they left.
They now live an Atlas Shrugged existance out in the woods, and only their functional equals are allowed in.
This was brought to you by Leftist Thinking, and Other People's Money. The money is gone, so are the people who made it.
The incentive to make large amounts of taxable income is gone, and we find we can just get by with 200 acres of land, one 18 hole golf course, and a private air strip. It is bare bones, a simple life, but the taxes are low, the crime rate, the air is clean, the schools are good, and you can buy anything on the internet.
The Workers Paradise is free to do what they have all done, eat each other. The city eating plague will spread to the remaining cities.
Thought, labor, and functioning assets will continue to produce as they always have.
Well, maybe if you had our Northwestern liberal values, things would be working out better for you in your part of the country.
You talk about blacks and the poor as "the other." Try thinking about them as "us." We are all Americans, so the problems of some are the problems of all. Instead of segregating people from one another, we should be addressing them for all our sakes.
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You are aware that the rest of us are reading the racial bias you're writing, don't you?
Racial bias? What racial bias? Did you read the link I provided? Do you disagree with the facts reported by the United States census ?
Just search google, and read how Detroit's fall is actually blamed on "white flight". Well, did you think it was over ? Of course not. Well-to-do people flee have-nothings, because they can.
Reporting on white flight is one thing, justifying it is quite another.
I have black relatives, and black co-workers that discuss race issues openly, and a black niece (4 years old), however, I do justify it. I also think "black flight" is justified.
See "Black flight"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_flight
Why do you think the "well-to-do" people should live with "have-nots" ? Everyone wants to move up in the world.
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You are aware that the rest of us are reading the racial bias you're writing, don't you?
Racial bias? What racial bias? Did you read the link I provided? Do you disagree with the facts reported by the United States census ?
Just search google, and read how Detroit's fall is actually blamed on "white flight". Well, did you think it was over ? Of course not. Well-to-do people flee have-nothings, because they can.
Reporting on white flight is one thing, justifying it is quite another.
I have black relatives, and black co-workers that discuss race issues openly, and a black niece (4 years old), however, I do justify it. I also think "black flight" is justified.
See "Black flight"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_flight
Why do you think the "well-to-do" people should live with "have-nots" ? Everyone wants to move up in the world.
There's nothing wrong with seeking a better life free of crime and with more job and educational opportunities. But it's wrong for people to dessert communities for the sake of racial or class prejudice. My neighborhood, which is mostly middle class and working class, has it's share of poor people (like my family and I), and has been more recently attracting more blacks, and nobody is moving away that I can tell, nor has there been an upswing in crime. Yes, people can live together, despite race or class. It's white flight, taking most business with them, is what causes the deterioration of communities.
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