RhodyStruggle wrote:
Well I think the entire American system of justice is an abomination, fundamentally incapable of producing any outcome save injustice. So no, I don't think minors - or anyone else - should be subjected to that system.
I mostly only believe in restorative justice. I do believe that punitive / retributive justice is entirely ethically justifiable, if and only if those harmed by said said punitive/retributive process were themselves willful participants in a system of punitive/retributive justice without such a limited scope. That is, I'm 100% pro-death penalty, torture, cruel-and-unusual-punishment, etc. for cops, prison guards, prosecutors, and politicians - but I believe everyone else deserves a system of justice whose primary function and reason for existing is to heal hurts, not to punish wrongdoing.
For those who have a decent chance of going on to live an honest life, I would pretty much agree. There are many, however, who will always be a serious threat to honest citizens unless they are kept locked up. These people should never get out.
I'm frequently appalled by how many people see the justice system as being about getting revenge. Not only do they want to send everyone to prison for a very long time, they want prison to be just as miserable as possible. But a prison that bad isn't going to do much beyond just making those sent there much, much worse. Most will eventually be released and the last thing we want is for them to come out of prison ready to do far worse than they would have done otherwise. Treat prisoners like gladiators and they will become gladiators.
One reason for prison is punishment, but we should send people there "as punishiment", not "for punishment". I can't possibly understand the twisted minds of those who want those sent to prison to be raped nightly by their cellmates as well as every time they go in the shower.
I could care less about the punishment aspect. If we could be reasonably certain that a person would never again reoffend if released, I would be all in favor of releasing them with very little, if any, prison time. Our goal should be to make them someone who contributes to society, not is a leach on it. But for those who would be likely to reoffend, we are all better off if they are warehoused in prison indefinitely.