What are your views on corporal punishment?

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The topic heading says "What Are Your Views On Corporal Punishment?"
So now we need peer reviewed studies to support our personal views?
Or does that just apply to people whose views are not in lockstep with yours?
Nice try.

It shouldn't be used because it just teaches kids it's okay to hit others and as an adult, if you hit anyone but a child, you get charged with assault so how is it okay to hit kids? Just doesn't make sense!

Parents sacrifice enough time and energy raising their children to deserve that they become functioning adults without causing much trouble. There's nothing wrong in showing your contempt to children too weak to achieve that, as they're draining your precious resources which could be better used on their stronger siblings.

In real life, people do take revenge, and force is what ultimately matters, so a truly functioning adult had better be ready to face this reality. Violence teaches them who is boss and that we're not all equal by any stretch of the imagination. It gets them rid of needless self-esteem and makes them aware they're at the bottom of the totem pole. It teaches them how lucky they are merely to be alive, so they'd better not ask for anything more, since they haven't earned it.



That's merely an opinion. If they didn't think the punishment was appropriate, they wouldn't have chosen it.

The law of the jungle is very clear: what you deserve is exactly what you get, whatever it is. Want better results? Be stronger.



It's solely their business to decide which outcomes are good and which ones are bad.

saying that studies are inherently flawed is making a claim, not expressing a view. hope this helps!

Now I'm suspecting that you are just pulling my leg with a devil's advocate argument. I suppose if I rebutted this you'd stay in character with this idea that parents are trying to sort out which kid is the runt of the litter and needs to be destroyed for the good of the clan.

I'm just trying to be rational. I wouldn't call it playing devil's advocate this time. Any emotional tendency I may have to sympathize with weak children can be ascribed to my own weakness and, hence, to my fear of being weeded out. But just because a policy wouldn't be good for me doesn't mean it wouldn't be the right one.

Eh, I don't think it's good, but I also don't think it's as bad as it's being made out to be, though to be clear, I'm not talking about anything more severe than an open hand spanking.

I figure we owe it to future generations to not give into our baser, more animal instincts and find some better way to raise children where we don't have to strike them.

Yes, it certainly does help!
You're such a helpful little fish and I just don't know what we'd do without you.

Like the Judge Rothenberg method with electricity?
Or just push pills in them. Hey, that's safe because the FDA said so.

Sorry, no citation this time either but here's a lollipop just for you.

You're not being rational though. You're happily disregarding evidence presented to you which suggests that violent punishment doesn't work, and using emotional reasoning to justify that.

No, it's wrong.

One problem I see though is that while some parents might not spank, they still can cause as much damage in other ways. Some parents who don't spank are still emotionally abusive which can be just as damaging in other ways.

If you force an abusive parent to not spank a kid, they are still going to inflict damage in another way. That doesn't mean there shouldn't be laws against it though.

The only way you can stop emotional and verbal abuse is by counseling but if hitting an adult is against the law, hitting a child should be, too.

It's not against the law for adults to emotionally abuse other adults but harassment can be. What's really weird is, people can get away with doing stuff to kids they would spend years and years in prison for doing to an adult. To me that's messed up.

"Fully seven in 10 U.S. adults agree a “good, hard spanking is sometimes necessary to discipline a child,” while less than half as many disagree (29 percent) according to the 2014 wave of the General Social Survey released Tuesday by NORC at the University of Chicago. After a modest drop in popularity in the late-1980s and 90s, support has stabilized, fluctuating between 68 and 72 percent in the past decade."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/03/05/millennials-like-to-spank-their-kids-just-as-much-as-their-parents-did/

Yet you do that to an adult, you can get charged with assault and battery. So why is there a discrepancy? Adults "misbehave" all the time yet it's certainly not acceptable nor expected anyone hit them for it, or spank them. How is a child misbehaving any different from an adult? I never met anyone who doesn't misbehave at times, young or old. It's just the human condition. Humans are not perfect beings. So how do you handle it?

If you can trust them to fix it. It provides a great opportunity to keep getting madder and madder at them every time they mess up, which predictably should happen more and more often as they get more nervous and frightened, thus closing the positive feedback loop.

There's also the more economical option of simply making a big show of how you deny them a chance to make up for the damage they've done, which will still be added to the ever-growing list of misdeeds they are and will forever be guilty of, because they're too clumsy, dumb and physically weak for you to trust them.



You can't do that without granting them those privileges first.

Well, since the most basic privilege is food, you can apply the time-honored method of making them do hard work in the fields all day long without eating. If one day is not enough, two in a row, and so on. Make sure they see the rest of the family is eating. Don't forget to escalate the punishment every time they don't perform well enough because their hungry and weary muscles and brain have become flaky. It has been scientifically established that this, slowly but surely, will erode their muscles and brain, especially the latter. These are the only organs whose cells can't multiply, so every one which dies is lost forever. They can only grow as long as each individual remaining cell grows. This means the punishment will have lasting effects for them to remember and regret their misbehavior, and will also make it easier and more hurtful for you to derisively remind them their weakness and dullness.



It goes much farther if you make a point to let them know the world is and always will be full of people much more powerful than them, who can do them arbitrarily serious damage, which will hurt them much more and for much longer than a mere spanking, so they'd better not cross them.