ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Years ago into my twenties I thought doctors came up with labels for people based on their personalities and they did it to make money. I even thought ODD was made up for kids who act out and get violent when they don't get their way and treat people with disrespect and bully them and this was a choice they do so doctors gave it a name. Then someone here pointed out to me that a disorder is when it causes an impairment. Now I wonder where do you draw the line for an impairment. What about willful ignorance or people who are easily offended and get upset over nothing or what about stupidity? Why aren't these conditions? My mom must always read before going to sleep so how is this not an impairment? She may be in a hotel room with other people and she will need the light on. She will go in the bathroom and read. I would call this a difference because she found a solution to her problem so her impairment is not bothering other people with the light she has on because they are trying to sleep.
But I still wonder where do we draw the line for disorders and when something is an impairment. A person may do something that might affect others so who has a disorder? The person that is affecting the other person or the person who is being affected?
Personality is also a matter of taste. Let's say you know someone who's really quiet and not likely to make waves, just sorta goes with the flow but is loyal and reliable. She doesn't stand up for herself like she should. She's too passive. Some people like that type of personality because they feel threatened by loud, pushy people while others would say, I don't like her because she's always so quiet and never looks out for her own interests. So to someone who likes quiet, shy, passive people she doesn't appear disordered, but to a loud, boisterous, aggressive-type personality, she appears to be too easily victimized by others because she doesn't speak her mind and stand up for herself, while the passive personality will become passive aggressive around the loud, aggressive one who tells it like it is no matter what. When they are unhappy, the just tell the person, "I don't like what you did."
Some people are attracted to Narcissistic Personalities while others are repelled by them. Even the drama of histrionics is appealing to those who get bored easily. Some people gravitate to the emo type personalities.
If you find your personality works against you in too many ways, so that you can't get ahead in life and repel the people who matter most, then it can be a disorder so I guess when this happens is when treatment is sought even though personality disorders are said to be tough to treat because it's something so normal and natural. You have to train people to completely reevaluate their natural responses and think before they talk or take action. Maybe hypnosis could help?
So it's basically people that make it a disorder. I have heard of people being so vulnerable like some people are so laid back and can't stand up for themselves, they are so passive, that makes them more vulnerable to a crime but that wouldn't mean they would commit one. Let's say their husband decides to kidnap someone so he does and the wife does nothing about it because of her personality. Yes she will go to jail too along with her husband when caught. I suspect people who go to jail for crimes their partners committed and they did nothing, not even go to the police, have a personality that made them vulnerable so it made them weak. We call it a weak personality. I feel sorry for them in a way.
I wonder if I have a personality disorder because I have a personality that makes me vulnerable but how can we tell the difference if it's a personality disorder? But I guess just as long as those people don't bother me and I keep on living where no one bothers me, there is no disorder. s**t just better not happen.
My brother was always easily influenced by peers so he did drugs I found out from my mother and he did other things and one time he nearly got in trouble with the law but my mom wouldn't let them put it on his criminal record and it was something his friends did, not him but he was just with them when they did it. Some teens pick the wrong group of friends because of their personality and some are easily influenced so....But then he grew out of that problem. Having a baby cured that personality because he wanted his baby to have a good life and environment so he finally started to get tough and quit being passive and started to take his life seriously.
I do wonder though if any personality disorders can ever be recovered from. I think BPD can like it did in Girl Interrupted.
I do think there are vulnerable people out there but does that mean they all have a personality disorder? Even a certain personality makes someone more vulnerable to domestic abuse for example, if you have high empathy and care about others and like to help others and make people happy and if you are desperate for a relationship or you are someone who prefers to have someone who will take care of you like give you anything, pay for everything and make all the money and pay all the bills and there are people out there who use these personalities to lure these victims to abuse them.
But like you say, it's about degree and if it holds you back in life, then it's a disorder. My brother's personality didn't hold him back so therefore it wasn't a disorder. It was like he flipped a switch in his personality when he found out he was expecting.
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Son: Diagnosed w/anxiety and ADHD. Also academic delayed and ASD lv 1.
Daughter: NT, no diagnoses. Possibly OCD. Is very private about herself.
14 Jul 2015, 10:16 pm
