Do you think agnostics exist?

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16 Aug 2015, 12:50 pm

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18 Aug 2015, 12:08 am

I've seen two types of categorisation frameworks in relation to agnosticism.

One has three mutually exclusive categories: theists, agnostics, and atheists

The other is a 2x2 matrix of: (theism vs atheism) by (gnosticism vs agnosticism)

In the second categorisation framework, someone would be an agnostic-atheist if they believe that god/gods/goddesses/theforce etc don't exist, but don't believe with 100% certainty. Many, if not most atheists would be agnostic-atheists.

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18 Aug 2015, 3:11 am

semiparametric wrote:

Correct. And the ones that aren't are deluded.

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20 Aug 2015, 9:20 pm

Wolfram87 wrote:

Eric2971 wrote:

Whats really funny is that Atheism and Religion both require the same thing. Faith. Simply denying or espousing the existence of god (or any type of creator) does not make your belief true. And that makes it faith.

Steve Theist: "There is a god."
Bob Atheist: "I don't think there is."
Steve Theist: "Wow, look at all the faith we both have!"

...

Rene Theist: "Cogito ergo sum; all else is suspect."
Bob Atheist: "Muh science!"
Immanuel Theist: "...doesn't work without faith in the correspondence between noumenon and phenomenon."

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23 Aug 2015, 4:03 am

Why is it that when someone has a different belief or different identity, people feel the need to ask if it exists? If you don't agree with something then fine, don't use that word to describe yourself, but questioning its very existence goes too far. If someone says they're agnostic then they probably are. Questioning their belief (or lack thereof) is kind of dismissive and unnecessary.

* note - not directed to OP but to atheists mentioned in first post who don't think agnostics exist

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23 Aug 2015, 9:13 am

ocelots wrote:

* note - not directed to OP but to atheists mentioned in first post who don't think agnostics exist

Has anyone matching this description posted here? If they have, I've missed it.

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