i am legitimately scared about trump becoming president
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His nonsense that the sheeple love
1. Immigration is the top issue. When was the last time you got mugged by a Mexican? Do you want to harvest cabbages? Immigration is as important as littering.
2. Build a wall and the Mexicans will pay for it. Ummm DUH Even a moron should see why that is stupid.
3. Drastically increase military funding without raising taxes or increasing the deficit. Violates basic arithmetic.
4. Make it a war against Islam and not ISIS. Trump is willing to put our troops at risk for votes!
Anyway, the average Trump supporter has at most a High School diploma. Trump knows how to make them believe anything.
Show me where I am wrong? Is 1,2,3 or 4 inaccurate?
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If someone posts " The grand puba on Pluto said...." It is legitimate to request real objections from serious people.
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We are watching in slow-mo as democracy crumbles to the far right, and America becomes fascist.
I suppose a criminal lawyer like Hillary is better, somebody that cackles about freeing guilty child rapists. Who is this better alternative? You know what Bernie Sanders was before he was a politician? A literal bum! Look it up, the guy never worked a real job in his life. Bernie was a 60s radical that never grew up or entered "the real world", I suppose that is better than being evil incarnate like the Clinton's. Mind you, Sanders only chance at the nomination is if the DOJ indicts Hillary which I sincerely doubt and done at such an inopportune that the DNC can't scramble some other "electable" candidate.
The way this country has been run for decades has been a total disaster, we need change or there won't be a country much longer.
It seems he graduated college then participated in some protests and civil rights stuff, then became active in politics and then became a senator in 2006. But what constitutes a 'real job' anyways, has trump had a real job?...Inheriting money and then using it to start businesses, make profit and live a life of leisure without ever actually doing any labor doesn't really sound like any more real of a job than being in politics.
Sanders was a perennial candidate like Vermin Supreme that lived in poverty until he finally by some stroke of luck got elected Mayor of Burlington, Vermont in 1981. I believe that was his first paying job, he was almost 40 at that point. Mind you this wasn't just one man's passion either, he had a kid to support during his extended adolescence too.
Yes I guess presidency is for the wealthy, someone who's lived in poverty couldn't possibly make a viable candidate.
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Actually, the fact that Sanders is brilliant (as evidenced by his academic record) and chose to use his talents in public service rather then making a fortune for himself is a positive thing.
If a nun ran for office would you disqualify her because she never made a lot of money at a real job?
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If a nun ran for office would you disqualify her because she never made a lot of money at a real job?
I was kind of thinking it was a good thing as well.
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I just hope Trump doesn't become President. He reminds me of some schmucks I grew up with. He reminds me of those guys who hung out on the corner or at the pizza place.
People with autism would not thrive under a Trump Presidency--that's putting it mildly!
I don't know about National Socialism (NAZI's)--that's a wee bit extreme--but, like I said, he reminds me of the corner boys who make fun of the nerds, and pull their bookbags (or take their lunch money).
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Unfortunately, Trump appeals to some aspies. I guess it is the Stockholm Syndrome.
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I wonder how Trump would fare in Stockholm.
Even if he's nominated, he will not win the election--because of the Electoral College. He will not win the populated areas--the cities of the Northeast, Midwest, and Far West. The states within which those cities are located usually happen to have the most electoral votes.
To the OP: you'll just have to get over it because those people, his supporters, they exist whether he's a candidate or not. You flirt with one very valid point though, and that's that Trump himself isn't really that important, he's merely a figurehead for a type of attitude. This is what allows him to say what he says-- it doesn't need to make sense, logical or otherwise, as long as he presents the attitude and sticks to it people of that same mentality will follow him like the pied piper. If you look at the facts he has a very weak case for president: his post-housing empire is built largely on just prostituting his name to the highest bidder and selling people on rip-off scams, not to mention going bankrupt in the mid 90's when everyone and their retired grandma made money. It's one of the oldest tricks in the book: if your record is weak then attack your opponent to make his/her record appear weak and steer conversation away from yourself. That's what makes it so humorous to me, his supporters see the image and attitude he portrays and see strength, but it's just an illusion, the actual facts are squarely against his own self-perception.
I support anyone who s pro gun or at least will leave my rights alone. Sadly democrats blindly follow the age old party lines. Despit polls showing guns are near the bottom of Americans concerns.
Same way republicans are anti welfare because hit party has always been so . Gosh for it people think for themselves or evolve the parties. Really to ad the democrats can't be pro all rights regardless of if they like them personally. Bathers me how a party can be pro gay women, blacks, trans, etc rights but then constantly attack others rights. Then have the balls to get mad at others for doing the same.
Everyone should support gay rights even if your not gay, gun owners eh f*** them take their rights, because we aren't gun owners.
I don't like trump much but if it's him or another anti rights democrat then I vote for him. I'm so tired of demcrats and I am one
We know what will happen if a dem is elected, at least with trump it might be better.
The Trumps were small time Queens real estate redevelopers. Buying rundown buildings, gutting them to the floorboards, building back to modern standards.
Manhattan was a tough old money market to break into. These people bought their property for beads.
Trump did that, and when gambling came to Atlantic City, all the big players with Teamster connections wanted in.
Trump got a large piece of the action, by paying more than it was worth. The failure of gambling was not his fault. Atlantic City and New Jersey did not support the industry like Nevada did. They were short sighted, allow gambling, tax it, wallow in money. The whole industry went bankrupt.
The banks did not want it back, Trump had already pulled out a lot of money, paid off his personal debt. His offer was, write down the debt, and I will keep my name and management running it. The other choice was locking the doors, and taking a total loss.
As the Owner Trump was the only one who could declare bankruptcy. He did it for the banks, so all debts were reduced, and the banks got something back. It also bought time for other casinos to fold, leaving more business, and the hope that the City and State would do more. They did not, the new convention center was built on the other side of town, away from the boardwalk, casinos and hotels. Atlantic City was small time, bus loads of old people with $50 to play slots. It never attracted the high rollers. They did not have $2,000 a night call girls.
Gambling in Atlantic City is down to scratch offs, and Pick Five. No one survived, the friends of the Teamsters paid off their debts from other properties. Both Trump and his banks got out only slightly wounded.
Then Trump went for Golf Courses, following the words of Mark Twain, "Buy land, they don't make it anymore."
The Hotel Business fit with Golf. He made a lot of money. More golf, more hotels, he made a worldwide name and a lot more money. It beats gutting tenements in Queens.
He had cleared his personal debt, he could have just walked away, and let the banks deal with it. He stuck it out through several years, City, State, Attorney General, Gambling Commission, and Federal Court, and got the banks and his employees the best deal he could.
He has no problem with no recourse borrowing, no personal guaranty needed. When the deal turned bad, he stuck it out with the investors. Banks wait in line to fund his deals.
At the level of international business, knowing the people and the laws, Trump has no equal in this race. We can impose sanctions on countries that want access to our markets, yet block us from theirs. We are not obligated to take Immigrants.
We do provide services to the world. When the Philippines wanted to charge us more for protecting them, we left Clark Field and Subic Bay. They are now fighting the Chinese forty miles offshore. If Japan and South Korea want our continued protection, they should pay for it. The first fifty years is free, it worked, now lets talk about the future.
ISIS is just vile. They are a terrorist army funded and supported by many Islamic countries. They are the cause of attacks in Europe, America, Afghanistan, Libya, and are gaining ground. We are going to kill them, or they are going to kill us. To do that we need the help of Russia, Syria, Iraq, Iran.
Reality is a harsh mistress, and it is getting very real out there.
It has always been the same, we have to be someone no one wants to fight.
Let's not be too judgmental towards Forrest Trump.
Stupid is as stupid does.
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I know a number of Republicans who are very wary of Trump. As far as many traditional Republicans are concerned, Trump is basically a leftist trying to disguise himself as someone on the right.
My opinion of him is that is about what you would expect from a Reality Show candidate.
Here I will make the obvious simpler for you to understand.
Well how thoughtful of you to take notice of me from your high horse. I am indeed honored.
Thank you for telling me what I said and/or meant. Here all this time I had no idea. I am much obliged.
Tisk, tisk, tisk on me.
I'm really awful and something should be done about me.
Yeah, we need more enlightened people like yourself to show us unwashed masses the error of our ways.
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