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25 Feb 2016, 3:40 pm

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Also as a side note...I thought a trigger warning was for if you're like on an online or IRL mental health support group type thing, to warn people if you're about to go into detail about some horrific experience you had or saw that could trigger trauma symptoms in others. Or I remember in school when they showed videos that could be disturbing for less mature classmates or ones who maybe had a trauma/experience related they'd warn them to leave the room for it if nessisary.

So basically whatever a**hole decided its something to just throw around in front of anything that, anyone might find distasteful is using the idea in an entirely overblown and inappropriate manner I think.


these as*holes are called SJWs, they populate places like tumblr and reddit

they are regressive, not progressive



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25 Feb 2016, 3:41 pm

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...Do you see what I'm saying at all right now?

No. If you know that something like wearing blackface is offensive, why would you do it intentionally? If you don't know, then what's wrong with someone telling you?



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25 Feb 2016, 3:41 pm

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Political correctness is suffocating the west, it is a suicidal ideology and totalitarian in nature. You don't get to control speech, imagine how silly all those people that were literally beaten in the middle of the streets in the 60s fighting for their civil rights must feel that Dr. King's message of reconciliation and unity has been so completely lost by this current generation. This is a problem with WHITE liberals, blacks and hispanics don't play the PC game and in the deluded mind of a SJW they lead them in oppression points thus they can do and say whatever they want. The black and hispanic people I know(most of my classmates in public school) laugh at how scared whites are to say anything about race, I'm not talking about some spoiled child of a millionaire that cries about white privilege but rather the real folks that struggle every day that these liberals try to move as far away from as possible.

I believe in free speech, **** your feelings.


Government forcing political correctness, could be construed as totalitarian for sure. However 'political correctness' isn't an ideology, its a term that means avoiding offensive language...in my opinion its not very evil in itself. Also just as much as one can make a point to be offensive or unpleasant to express free speech, people can also make a point to be more civil when interacting with people and still be expressing free speech. The choice of course is up to the individual...granted the former might come with some less great consequences. Basically I see no reason to go out of my way to be offensive because to me 'being offensive doesn't=I can freedom of speech better then u' but I am not going to walk on egg shells either.

Also I don't think you can soley blame the issue on 'this generation' what about those who raised this generation, you don't think they've had any part in creating the crowd who supports censorship and what not?


It most definitely is an ideology, there are very few PC ideologues but many many useful idiots that cast fear over the entire culture. You are taking what they say at face value when in reality these PC police are actually what you call Cultural Marxists. Not liberals, liberalism literally means as much freedom as possible so like libertarianism which is funny considering how twisted the term has become. Look at actions, not what they little manifesto says.


Ok maybe there are ideologies that have branched from the term...but political correctness itself just means avoiding offensive language, its not even very concrete since it would largely be based on what you think entails offensive speech. I've looked it up multiple times and that is the persistent definition....no 'its an ideology that suggests'...if there are people making an ideology out of it I don't know a lot about that but it sounds like people with way too much time on their hands.


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25 Feb 2016, 3:42 pm

Jacoby wrote:
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Also as a side note...I thought a trigger warning was for if you're like on an online or IRL mental health support group type thing, to warn people if you're about to go into detail about some horrific experience you had or saw that could trigger trauma symptoms in others. Or I remember in school when they showed videos that could be disturbing for less mature classmates or ones who maybe had a trauma/experience related they'd warn them to leave the room for it if nessisary.

So basically whatever a**hole decided its something to just throw around in front of anything that, anyone might find distasteful is using the idea in an entirely overblown and inappropriate manner I think.


these as*holes are called SJWs, they populate places like tumblr and reddit

they are regressive, not progressive


That is good term for them I think.


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25 Feb 2016, 3:45 pm

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Just make a list for the USA. That will do for now. We are the main ones having to deal with this stuff.

And there are websites for people travelling to foreign countries to give you a quick heads up on what not to do there that is normal here.
ok.

1) think before you speak
2) don't be an as*hole
3) see #1



That would work of they were up in arms over garden variety asshattery. They aren't. They are mad about things most people have never heard of. And also it's all about how the person listening perceives it. We can't know how they will and they could misunderstand anything and then the speaker is the bad guy for no reason.

If not being an ass were how to not trigger the SJWs then it would be easier.

That's why we need a list. Nobody is going to come up with all that crap on their own.

Again. Jazz Hands. Clapping isn't being an ass and nobody would think it is but its wrong and TRIGGERING now. That is why we need a list.

And people with colostomys probably don't appreciate you throwing that a word around. See? That could actually be one.
you're paying too much attention to the nutball outliers. they're too busy trying to include every possible permutation that they miss the point of what they're doing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNH0bmYT7os
people like this lady who claimed that AC is sexist because 'women feel the cold more than men' (?) don't help the left any more than the idiotic rape apologists do for the right.



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25 Feb 2016, 3:45 pm

Fugu wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
You are taking what they say at face value when in reality these PC police are actually what you call Cultural Marxists. Not liberals, liberalism literally means as much freedom as possible so like libertarianism which is funny considering how twisted the term has become. Look at actions, not what they little manifesto says.
speaking of actions, do you regularly rabbit anti-jewish nazi propaganda?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Bolshevism


I can create wikipedia articles too

it's nonsense, calling it a conspiracy theory is nonsense

crying RACISM is nonsense especially from an over-privileged white doofuses, it's a way of deflecting when they are losing an argument



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25 Feb 2016, 3:46 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Fugu wrote:
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Political correctness is suffocating the west, it is a suicidal ideology and totalitarian in nature. You don't get to control speech, imagine how silly all those people that were literally beaten in the middle of the streets in the 60s fighting for their civil rights must feel that Dr. King's message of reconciliation and unity has been so completely lost by this current generation. This is a problem with WHITE liberals, blacks and hispanics don't play the PC game and in the deluded mind of a SJW they lead them in oppression points thus they can do and say whatever they want. The black and hispanic people I know(most of my classmates in public school) laugh at how scared whites are to say anything about race, I'm not talking about some spoiled child of a millionaire that cries about white privilege but rather the real folks that struggle every day that these liberals try to move as far away from as possible.

I believe in free speech, **** your feelings.
"i believe in free speech until THOSE PEOPLE start saying nasty things about me"
you can't simultaneously believe in free speech and want to restrict it, that's not how free speech works.


Non sequitur, where did I say restrict anything? That is what YOU want you little wannabe fascist! :lol:

Is that all you got for an argument? You really are a dodo! :lol:
you're advocating against PC speech and somehow you're not trying to restrict it? uh ok :roll:



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25 Feb 2016, 3:49 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Fugu wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
You are taking what they say at face value when in reality these PC police are actually what you call Cultural Marxists. Not liberals, liberalism literally means as much freedom as possible so like libertarianism which is funny considering how twisted the term has become. Look at actions, not what they little manifesto says.
speaking of actions, do you regularly rabbit anti-jewish nazi propaganda?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Bolshevism


I can create wikipedia articles too

it's nonsense, calling it a conspiracy theory is nonsense

crying RACISM is nonsense especially from an over-privileged white doofuses, it's a way of deflecting when they are losing an argument
where did i call it a conspiracy?
where did i mention racism?
ironically you speak of deflecting on my part when that's what you're doing right now :lol:



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25 Feb 2016, 3:50 pm

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What those of us whose epidermis isn't made of single ply tissue would like is a list of everything offensive from now into perpetuity. This means think of everything, no matter how small, that could in any way be possibly offensive to even one person and write it down. Make sure you get everything because once it's done I'm having it carved into stone by a grandchild of a set director who used to work for Cecil B DeMille and its got to stay that way.


You have been fooled by the entire strategy of the radical Left, and they already have you wrapped around their fingers. There isn't and can't be such a list on purpose, because "social justice" has nothing to do with either society or justice. It is about power -- the power to control your behavior at will. If you know the rules and follow them, then maybe you can be independent. But if we keep the rules hidden from you, or change them randomly, then we can keep you always on the defensive, always down, and then we can control you. "Social justice" is Marxist totalitarianism touched up with lipstick and squirted with perfume so you can smell the mass-murdering ideology underneath.

And it's easy to do, because on average, human beings (even a lot of aspies) just go along with the crowd. If the crowd is doing something, then it must be ok. And whipping up a crowd is a pretty easy thing to do if you have decent persuasive skills. I could begin right here (if I wanted to) as follows: Your racist username is something that really should not be permitted on WP. Don't you think you should apologize for that kind of coded slur against Italian Americans? If you post an apology I won't report you to the moderators, but you can be sure we'll be monitoring your posts to make sure you don't harass any more users with your racist ideology.

(See how easy that is? And I guarantee if some energetic person started promoting that kind of line, pretty soon an assortment of crowd-followers would start promoting it too -- in Marxist lingo they are called "useful idiots" who will do whatever the Party tells them to do.)


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25 Feb 2016, 3:52 pm

Fugu wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
You are taking what they say at face value when in reality these PC police are actually what you call Cultural Marxists. Not liberals, liberalism literally means as much freedom as possible so like libertarianism which is funny considering how twisted the term has become. Look at actions, not what they little manifesto says.
speaking of actions, do you regularly rabbit anti-jewish nazi propaganda?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Bolshevism


Why do people who defend this sh*t always try and put you on the defensive?


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25 Feb 2016, 3:55 pm

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What those of us whose epidermis isn't made of single ply tissue would like is a list of everything offensive from now into perpetuity. This means think of everything, no matter how small, that could in any way be possibly offensive to even one person and write it down. Make sure you get everything because once it's done I'm having it carved into stone by a grandchild of a set director who used to work for Cecil B DeMille and its got to stay that way.


You have been fooled by the entire strategy of the radical Left, and they already have you wrapped around their fingers. There isn't and can't be such a list on purpose, because "social justice" has nothing to do with either society or justice. It is about power -- the power to control your behavior at will. If you know the rules and follow them, then maybe you can be independent. But if we keep the rules hidden from you, or change them randomly, then we can keep you always on the defensive, always down, and then we can control you. "Social justice" is Marxist totalitarianism touched up with lipstick and squirted with perfume so you can smell the mass-murdering ideology underneath.

And it's easy to do, because on average, human beings (even a lot of aspies) just go along with the crowd. If the crowd is doing something, then it must be ok. And whipping up a crowd is a pretty easy thing to do if you have decent persuasive skills. I could begin right here (if I wanted to) as follows: Your racist username is something that really should not be permitted on WP. Don't you think you should apologize for that kind of coded slur against Italian Americans? If you post an apology I won't report you to the moderators, but you can be sure we'll be monitoring your posts to make sure you don't harass any more users with your racist ideology.

(See how easy that is? And I guarantee if some energetic person started promoting that kind of line, pretty soon an assortment of crowd-followers would start promoting it too -- in Marxist lingo they are called "useful idiots" who will do whatever the Party tells them to do.)
"see how easy it is to glide down this conveniently slippery slope. what's that you say, this slope doesn't exist? woah buddy, you must be one of em commies here to take o'r the contry"
accusing people who don't share your beliefs of 'cultural marxism/bolshevism/whatever' is base idiocy.



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25 Feb 2016, 3:56 pm

Fugu wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Fugu wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Political correctness is suffocating the west, it is a suicidal ideology and totalitarian in nature. You don't get to control speech, imagine how silly all those people that were literally beaten in the middle of the streets in the 60s fighting for their civil rights must feel that Dr. King's message of reconciliation and unity has been so completely lost by this current generation. This is a problem with WHITE liberals, blacks and hispanics don't play the PC game and in the deluded mind of a SJW they lead them in oppression points thus they can do and say whatever they want. The black and hispanic people I know(most of my classmates in public school) laugh at how scared whites are to say anything about race, I'm not talking about some spoiled child of a millionaire that cries about white privilege but rather the real folks that struggle every day that these liberals try to move as far away from as possible.

I believe in free speech, **** your feelings.
"i believe in free speech until THOSE PEOPLE start saying nasty things about me"
you can't simultaneously believe in free speech and want to restrict it, that's not how free speech works.


Non sequitur, where did I say restrict anything? That is what YOU want you little wannabe fascist! :lol:

Is that all you got for an argument? You really are a dodo! :lol:
you're advocating against PC speech and somehow you're not trying to restrict it? uh ok :roll:


Maybe that's your first reaction to things you dislike, to ban it and imprison everyone that disagrees with you but you have me all wrong. I am calling political correctness suicidal, I am calling SJWs/the PC police useful idiots for extremist ideologues that we have allowed to to entrench themselves in higher education without ever venturing outside their little bubble. Oh what I want for you guys is much much worse for than than banning your speech, I want to take the ideological trash out of academia. They can go at preach some private college or on some soapbox in the street or cry on the internet, I do not care but for far too long we've given people who support MURDEROUS ideologies legitimacy and a literal free lunch for providing absolutely nothing of value to this country.



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25 Feb 2016, 3:57 pm

AP: In my life, I rarely find people who get offended by many things. People usually learn to pick their battles by adulthood.



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25 Feb 2016, 3:58 pm

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people like this lady who claimed that AC is sexist because 'women feel the cold more than men' (?) don't help the left any more than the idiotic rape apologists do for the right.

It's very likely that temperature standards for climate controlled buildings were implemented by men who didn't take into account the different needs of women.



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25 Feb 2016, 4:00 pm

Fugu wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Fugu wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
You are taking what they say at face value when in reality these PC police are actually what you call Cultural Marxists. Not liberals, liberalism literally means as much freedom as possible so like libertarianism which is funny considering how twisted the term has become. Look at actions, not what they little manifesto says.
speaking of actions, do you regularly rabbit anti-jewish nazi propaganda?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Bolshevism


I can create wikipedia articles too

it's nonsense, calling it a conspiracy theory is nonsense

crying RACISM is nonsense especially from an over-privileged white doofuses, it's a way of deflecting when they are losing an argument
where did i call it a conspiracy?
where did i mention racism?
ironically you speak of deflecting on my part when that's what you're doing right now :lol:


You are no longer being serious. You lose, I win. Lets have a poll if you disagree. Bring a legit argument or I'm just going to keep calling you stupid. The problem is that you are too much of a coward to say what you really want so you attack everyone else instead of defending your ideas. This cannot be turned around on me, I write more on here than anyone and actually enjoy educating the fools and truly ignorant.



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25 Feb 2016, 4:03 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Fugu wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Fugu wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
You are taking what they say at face value when in reality these PC police are actually what you call Cultural Marxists. Not liberals, liberalism literally means as much freedom as possible so like libertarianism which is funny considering how twisted the term has become. Look at actions, not what they little manifesto says.
speaking of actions, do you regularly rabbit anti-jewish nazi propaganda?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Bolshevism


I can create wikipedia articles too

it's nonsense, calling it a conspiracy theory is nonsense

crying RACISM is nonsense especially from an over-privileged white doofuses, it's a way of deflecting when they are losing an argument
where did i call it a conspiracy?
where did i mention racism?
ironically you speak of deflecting on my part when that's what you're doing right now :lol:


You are no longer being serious. You lose, I win. Lets have a poll if you disagree. Bring a legit argument or I'm just going to keep calling you stupid. The problem is that you are too much of a coward to say what you really want so you attack everyone else instead of defending your ideas. This cannot be turned around on me, I write more on here than anyone and actually enjoy educating the fools and truly ignorant.
nice, can't back up what you say so you just accuse me of not being serious. you say i called it a conspiracy theory. ok, where?
you say i mentioned racism. where?
this isn't a fantasy world where declaring things without data makes them valid.