Trump's protectionism

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America and the world will be better off if we mind our own business and take care of our own problems instead of the playing global chess and allowing the wealth of our people get stolen away. Trump is great, finally someone that will make all these freeloading countries pay their fair share for alliances that don't even benefit us. A nationalist beats a globalist any day. Obviously it works or else all these other countries wouldn't be doing it to protect their industries, we shouldn't have to compete with slave pens.

I'm starting to think free trade isn't such a bad thing, I think the real problem is how the US invests in itself. There are lots of barriers to education, and even people who overcome them can find themselves unemployed. I would not complain about my tax dollars being used to engage our unemployed with something productive.

What makes you think Trump is not a globalist?

In someone like Trumps mind, nationalism is for chumps. There is no real personal advantage to him. He just has to pretend to be one like Putin (and 200 billion nest egg creamed from the economy nicely tucked away)

Recent data shows manufacturing jobs coming back to the US. I think that as jobs moved from here to other countries it caused the wages in those countries to increase, therefore removing the incentive to outsource. Hopefully that trend will continue. I agree that outsourcing should be regulated. There could be penalties put on companies that outsource, or rewards for those who don't. It doesn't seem like anything has really been done just a lot of talking about it.

Why, you are assuming they would be able to operate without outsourcing.

Countries never got themselves out of poverty by isolating themselves.

Not all outsourcing is bad, nor is it all detrimental to the economy. It might even save those companies being bought up by foreign interests, and moving outright. Or simply allow more startups to thrive.

The way manufacturing could come back it through specialty. You are not going to have an old school industrial revolution. That is over.

Someone like me, who is a self employed programmer, you would naturally think such would be threat to me. However I see the advantage. I need to offer something that is valuable to my (worldwide) clients, however I also have resource to draw on for aspect of my work that I can't physically do. They would get decent money for it, as they the cost of living is much less. Dealing with them directly and negotiating as free agent means that both get what they want. This would allow me to grow and pay for good an services in my country.

What most people think globalization is collusiory corporate type, much encouraged by governments left and right to solve job crises, but fundamentally making instability through lack of competition (if they pull out you are skewed).

However there is also just trade between free agents, and this is where individuals can benefit the most.

Immigration is soon to be irrelevant in most sector, that the case in mine pretty much.

There isn't going to be a mythical person that hits all the check marks, all the other candidates are much worse. Trump represents real change and the end of the status quo, whether or not he's lying is the same as with any politician so to me it is worth the gamble of at worst letting Trump live out his fantasy for 4 years in the White House since the opportunity comes so rarely.

It is a tough debate, in some way, the current free trade policies make things cheaper, heck I can get a handheld VHF-Hi/UHF radio for $20 to $50. (I'm an amateur radio operator) However, I do agree it comes at a price, a lot of our people were put out of work for good paying jobs and either have to go on welfare or take less paying jobs where making it is very tight if not possible at all. I lived in the Pittsburgh and the Ohio Valley area and see dead town where there used to be life. I still see evidence in towns like Aliquippa where they used to be booming like the former Magnavox radio and TV store that used to be there but now I see the shadow of the "Magnavox" sign among those 1960's era "stat motifs" at the long, dead store.

Politically you can say I'm right of center, generally would fit in with the more libertarian wing of the Tea Party perhaps instead of the more uber-religious side of it. Even so, I do see the role of the State to provide some guidance if need be to look out after the country's interest as well as a welfare system to take care of those in need.

Even so, when I think about it, we need to bring better jobs back to this country. Yes taxation and overregulation is a part of it and needs to be address but we must stop making these bum trade deals too. I agree with Trump (and Sanders even, their policies on trade are similar) although Trump seem to be a bit of a bully to me and Sander's is too open on borders, weak on defense and too socialist for me. Even so, with less good paying jobs, we cannot support the society and government we have now. That the gist of it. Plus we are leaving people behind too. Another problem is that I'd rather have people work at good jobs, good pay, "idle hands are the Devil's workshop." I'd rather have someone be able to work at a job they like and be able to support themselves and their families, this will boost morale. I'd rather see society at times jump into and support this goal, it is better to have people come home happy knowing they are needed, like their job and making a good amount of money. This is a much better way than having idle people who have nothing to lose decide to pick up a gun, gas can or whatever and cause mayhem. I think the problems we have now stems largely from this. Many times the left can be wrong on these matters but as I get older the right is just as wrong at times, we need to come together and try things to see of they work and discard the things that don't.

Free trade does not work, countries look lout for their self interests like people do, except for the U.S. it seems. I can write a lot on this but these are the basics from my viewpoint.

Also, I think businesses see people like USB sticks, just plug them in and work, it isn't like that, they need to understand they need to invest and train people too and see them as human.

If I may add, the great prosperity America had from 1945 to 20??, although the decline started in 1973 or thereabouts, is we were "King of the Hill" after World War II. WE were the only major world power not to have been damaged. Germany and Japan were blown to smithereens, Italy was taken out early and a basketcase. The French were beaten up from the Nazis and the Vichy governments. The UK took a bad beating, it took 9 years from 1945 to gradually get rid of WWII rationing. The Russians took a beating as well and had to rebuild. The U.S. enjoy a special period of good times, some say that was abnormal and now the rest of the world has "grown up" sometimes with U.S. help, sometimes not. It was a long process, the (then0 West Germans did not fully recover from World War II until the 1980s. I think this is one factor we need to think about.

I hear you. I think the left in today's politics are too socialist at times but I do understand their appeal because so many on the right are very callous when you bring up the point you just made now and those who are not college material and so on. I see myself as liberatarian, center-right but I have to disagree with some of my compatriots when they are callous. I can see picking one self up by the bootstraps but other times there are people who need a helping hand to do so. It is like we are crabs in a bucket, the strongest ones make it to the top but they should be able to put a hand out to help the others out as well, the ones that almost make it with a little help could then reach down with their helpers to help others and so on.

A lot of companies that outsource are larger companies. They usually do it solely to save money, not because foreign workers can produce products that US workers cannot.

in a better world with a better race than homo sapiens.

I consider myself a moderate republican. I 'll probably hold my nose and vote for trump,especially if he runs against hillary, who in all honesty should be in prison.i think trump will probably flip flop on tariffs.i remember reading that the founding fathers wanted to use tariffs to fund the government.i think ted cruz talked about instituting a nation sales tax and making it higher on foriegn goods.Im pro free trade and believe tariffs would cause a trade war. I think the government has a program to fund retraining for workers whose jobs get moved overseas. Maybe that should be expanded. I remember the recent fracking boom helped boost manufacturing.maybe the government could subsidize energy exploration and manufacturing.

new boss, WORSE than the old boss.

Tariffs are not going to revive industry. It will just be more expensive to buy stuff, both imported and not.

You have to be smart about industry specialist, such as high tech, high end, etc.

You may have to do part of the production abroad, and pull it all together in assembly. Which can be personalised (one of the benefits of modern high tech manufacturing techniques).

What people seem to be forgetting is many people never couldn't obtain these products. Some of these product we never that obtainable when they were produced in the US, so it is not like it was a straight swap. Demand has gone up.

If the standard of life in the US has fallen, this can't all be blamed on external forces. US love to boast bout its great GDP, but GDP doesn't provide the whole picture.