Man turns dog into "nazi", gets arrested

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Sly, read "Mein Kampf" sometime.

And I would also recommend looking at some Holocaust films. You'll change your mind about the Nazis really fast.

No, no sort of "American" salute is a symbol of the genocide of Native Americans; where did you get that from?

Yes, I do understand the conditions which produced the Nazis. The hyperinflation, the reparations. That doesn't excuse the Holocaust. Performed with the approval of Hitler, even if he didn't plan it.

And I do believe we HAD to intervene in WW One. I don't think we should have imposed reparations on Germany, though.

What? Why? Woodrow Wilson's egomania and the perverse business interests of war profiteers were the reasons we got involved in WWI, US interests were not at risk. Williams Jennings Bryan wanted the US to stay truly neutral while Woodrow Wilson wanted to rule the world, the British and French easily manipulated this treacherous freak just by saying that America would have no place at the negotiating table unless she involve herself in the war. The French were still super butt hurt about the war they lost with the Germans back in 1870 which established the German Empire and the British feared the Germans upsetting the balance of power on the continent. There is a lot of reason to believe that the world would be better off had the Germans won WWI but it would be a totally different world.

Whether or not the Nazis were horrible (they were horrible) is not the point. The point is that the right to free speech is central and necessary to a truly democratic society. You cannot take this freedom from another person without endangering your own as well.

How would the world have been better if the Germans won World War One?

This is what I call a sentiment "charge".

Most likely the police had no idea what the hell they were going to charge him under until they looked up what would stick.

I suspect if it even makes it past the procession threshold, it will be thrown out of court.

Note: Scots law is somewhat different from English law. Scots law is no less old. I'm not saying it will make much differnce in this case.

In England and Wales there are 12 jurors in crown and high court (during the trial 3 may be discarded) and county courts 9 (2 may discharged), the majorities allowed are 11-1, 10-2, 10-1, 9-1 and 7, 1 respectively. In Scotland the have 15 jurors, they don't need unanimous verdict just simple majority of at least 8 regardless if jurors drop out. There is no hung jury, just guilty, not guilty and no proven.

The prosecution service is different in England Wales it is the CPS, in Scotland it is COPFS.

Well there wouldn't of been any Nazis for thus no Holocaust for starts plus a lot of current trouble in the Middle East comes from the French and British divvying it up for themselves with Zionist interests. Like I said, it would be different world but there is reason to believe it would be better unlike if say if the Nazis had won. WWI was not a black and white battle between good and evil, no war is that simple but we weren't particularly good in WWI and the Germans weren't particularly bad.

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But we would have been under the domination of the German Empire!

Yes, better than the Nazis.....but not palatable, either.

The Germans control the continent now with the European Union but the German Empire really wasn't a boogeyman, the French and British Empires were much more destructive but the Germans were just late to the party.

If the Treaty of Versailles weren't so harsh as to drive Germany into a depression, Hitler would probably never have come to power.

A mutual peace where neither side is punished to end s bloody pointless war would have been better for all. Germans could never won, they were attacked by too many powers. Ww1 was a war of fsmilies, all the leaders were cousins.

While the German leader had grand dreams is econicmially combined europe(EU) I don't think he had and plans of ruling over all Europe. Like hitler, he wanted to work with England to to the United economy. The central powers were th victims in ww1 not th aggressors. They were attacked and tried to defend themselves while facing s two front war against the rest of the global powers, and they werent really great military powers.

To be punished terribly for defending themselves created resentment towards th west that enabled the rise of the nazis. It also made the west feel bad and let hitter get away with everything up until Poland. It's why hitter made the French surrender on the same train the Germans did in ww1. It was revenge and Germans were more run up for revenge for the wrong doing of ww1.



German empire had no interst in ruling England or the USA. We were more then happy to take their money in exchange for weapons, we selfishly contributed and wanted more blood shed so we could make more money. You can't supply both sides in a long bloody war and not expect backlash eventually.

German empire was quite small and new at the time compared to the French and British empires. Realty is is they'd won't the allies would have just been fined for supporting terrorism. Or more likely a straight peace acknowledging Serbias wrong doing.

I really don't understand what's wrong with the two people at the top of this page. Pure insanity. The first one wants a punishment harsher than anything we dole out for any crime in the West and the second somehow thinks what this guy did is wrong yet it would be perfectly okay to punish him with some of the worst atrocities the Nazis ever committed. How the f**k can one be wrong and the other right in the same brain?

What the f**k is wrong with you two. Take a look at yourselves ffs.

I don't understand.

Apparently, there are many neo-Nazi groups in the UK.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_n ... ed_Kingdom

Yet, when a dog does it, then it's illegal ?

Now...I never said the guy should have been arrested.

But I think we should purge this nonsense once and for all. All this Nazi garbage/rubbish.

It's not "logic" making me feel this way. I'm not conjuring up logic here. It's feeling, it's subjective feeling.

It's the fact that what the Nazis did was so atrocious. Under any objective standard.

Don't presume to speak on behalf of us Brits. You'll find that, largely, our sensibilities are just as rugged as your own.

Those Brits who fought against the Nazis did so, in part, to preserve the freedoms which should allow their descendants to express their opinions, however absurd and no matter how absurdly.



He was arrested due to an illiberal notion of Political Correctness that is growing like a cancer at the heart of our society, infecting our law enforcement and legislation.



So your 'solution' to this 'problem' is what, Orwellian education institutions? In Britain? Did you cheer at the end of 1984?

Do you not see the irony of what you're saying? The farther you go down this path, the more like a Nazi you sound.

The last thing we need is government death squads and nazi terrorists and martyrs. And just imagine the witch hunts.